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post Mar 19 2008, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(Autistic Elephant @ Mar 19 2008, 07:15 PM) *
Oh, and it doesn't help that I have an obsession with knives/swords.

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post Mar 20 2008, 04:51 AM
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QUOTE(grumpy @ Mar 19 2008, 04:54 PM) *
creep!


It's a (mostly) healthy obsession! I've met several females due to this obsession!
(Actually, I got a girl a knife for valentine's day once - she shares my obsession (also a fencer) wacko.gif )
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post Mar 20 2008, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(Autistic Elephant @ Mar 19 2008, 10:51 PM) *
It's a (mostly) healthy obsession! I've met several females due to this obsession!
(Actually, I got a girl a knife for valentine's day once - she shares my obsession (also a fencer) wacko.gif )

Cutting yourself is not a healthy obsession...
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post Mar 20 2008, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Paranoid @ Mar 20 2008, 03:03 PM) *
Cutting yourself is not a healthy obsession...


Was referring to my obsession with swords/knives.
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post Mar 20 2008, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(Autistic Elephant @ Mar 20 2008, 01:06 PM) *
Was referring to my obsession with swords/knives.
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Oh lol.
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post Mar 20 2008, 07:20 PM
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I think viewing from the out side you will say its stupid.
But if your in the situation where theres nothing good in your life, you just want to put
the bullet in your head. Take me for an example.

I've been in the hospital for over a year, the doctors still dont know whats the matter with me.
Test after test. I got robbed of my graduation. I lost all credits due to the hospital. That means no prom,
no college, what the hell am i going to do for a job. My ex decided to cheat on me, on my birthday/anniversery.
Now she hangs out with all my friends and none of them decide to come see me. I did nothing wrong in the relationship. Cuz i called her a few bad names for the cheating, she wants me to go through hell. She's been getting drunk with my so called "friends" and egging my house. Next day i wake up to 9 voicemails saying im worthless, i have no friends...etc. Now dealing with all this together makes you want to not wake up another day. theres alot more to the situation, trust me. but thats good enough. And we all have our times, so im sure there worse. but people take it differently.

The thing is, at the time....where i was drowning from my sorrows, i wanted to kill myself.
People do it in the situation. Im sure after they have harm themselves or something, they think
how stupid they were after. So people who cut or kill themselves do it for the moment.
Now what i think people are missing, is why make a person want to go through that.
Why cant you just turn and leave them alone....so what if there not the way you want them to be. If your so perfect, why make others feel like crap.

Afterwards, i used the internet to vent, talk to real friends on the internet. You might not see them, but atleast their there for you.
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Thats not the point i was putting across.
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post Mar 20 2008, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Robbie @ Mar 20 2008, 01:20 PM) *
Why cant you just turn and leave them alone....so what if there not the way you want them to be.

How do we decide what 'we' want them to be? Suicidal people make those decisions by themselves, nobody forces them to be that way.
QUOTE(Robbie @ Mar 20 2008, 01:20 PM) *
If your so perfect, why make others feel like crap.

Who said they were perfect?

Lol. I totally disagree with that whole freekin' long paragraph you wrote.
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post Mar 20 2008, 09:09 PM
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@Top
Suicidal people just dont wake up and say "oh hey lets die today."
People do make them that way. People make them feel like shit, anger them, do enough
just to make the person feel like shit. People effect others, obviously.

@bottom
Its an expression.....why do you need to make people feel insecure.
Why do you feel the need to make fun of people. Just because they look different, dress
different, it gives you the right to make people feel like crap?
Because there not the way you are, why change people?

That people is the key to all of this.
Why change people?......because its not your way?..its not what you like to see?




Just so you know, im not emo....i dont cut my wrist or any of that stuff. I feel people in this department
need some standing up. Now i do not agree that it is right to cut yourself or any of that. people should get help.
BUT, i dont think by calling them names, or telling them there worthless doesnt make it better. Help dont Fight.
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post Mar 20 2008, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(Robbie @ Mar 20 2008, 03:09 PM) *
Just so you know, im not emo....i dont cut my wrist or any of that stuff. I feel people in this department
need some standing up. Now i do not agree that it is right to cut yourself or any of that. people should get help.
BUT, i dont think by calling them names, or telling them there worthless doesnt make it better. Help dont Fight.

Cool beans - You can't however stop discrimination. It'll continue, you can try hard to 'help' but in the end people hold their own opinions that fuel the 'fight'.
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post Apr 10 2008, 07:28 PM
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emoruffino there are little 10 pound 15 year old boys in africa who are raped /disesed /and dieing of hunger and i bet they dont want to harm themselfs wink.gif



na but , I have nothing against real depressed people who has "real" problems....but to cut yourself over it...? honestly....and dont say thats the only way becuase there are thousands of ways to relive stress...and tahts what it is stress...stress from work,school,home ect ect and there are ways other then cutting yourself....alot of ppl only do it today because its "cool" wich is the stupidest trend to ever exist....

I see alot of blogs,myspaces on the internet about "emo" people and how there problems happen to be the worst in the world...well i hate to tell ya but tuff shit , its life get over it , and life on for god sake stop wining about it we all have problems some worse then others but theres no reason in containing in all your problems.....
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pwned
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post Apr 11 2008, 01:55 AM
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I feel old now: Any of you remember the saying 'Life's a bitch' ? Well guess what it: It's true, Ye I've been dealed my share of shit over the past, Picked up a few cards along the way, Saw people die, Seen people kill.. People think that their problems are worse than all: Only because the problems they have are the only ones they see.. I have a friend who came back from Iraq two weeks ago, He went away with 206 bones in his body (Number of bones in a human body) and came back missing a leg and too many bruises..

I think the people out in the shit in Iraq etc. probably consider turning to the blades more than we do: They have real shit to deal with.. Not just a silly little kid with a knife and a broken heart, Shut up and Grow up.

If you can find other people who are suffering the same: Hell, Just past round the knife.
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post Apr 11 2008, 06:09 AM
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dam well I wish your friend the best of luck and im sorry that happened to him
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post Jun 29 2008, 07:18 PM
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You know the reason those people do that is because they're so depressed they make a hormone where they can't feel anything so, they cut to reassure they totally didnt loose feeling.
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post Jul 1 2008, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(Victory_Rave @ Jun 29 2008, 07:18 PM) *
You know the reason those people do that is because they're so depressed they make a hormone where they can't feel anything so, they cut to reassure they totally didnt loose feeling.

lol?

"Put yourself in their shoes", or at least thats what Iheard many times from other people... if your girlfriend turns you down... what do you do? laugh.gif

No pun intended, but I don't think harming yourself is anywhere close to solving any problems. Same thing as trying to run away from your problems, they will always hunt you down.

I've never harmed myself intentionally (Other than the times I accidentally fell off my bike, or almost drowning when I went to the deep and wasn't able to swim) but to tell you the truth, I value my life. Even though I got Hapetitis C that doctors accidentally gave me trying to save me from some disease.

Some people look at the dark side and turn their backs to the bright side of things. Please don't take this the wrong way. If you are a self-harmer, than it's your own decision and should not be given any crap about how you feel and how you do things. Even if you do it just for the heck of it... waste of time, but it's your body your decision. All I can and will say is, "It's not the best idea".

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post Jul 1 2008, 02:19 AM
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Currently, the whole "cut myself for attention" thing is cool amongst the "alternative kids". I personally do not follow it but hey, I do not discriminate.
But, in saying this I must also say that there are people out there that do have issues that a lot of the time is out of their control (in a sense). ON the other side of the coin, I believe, Life is what you make it. So if you have a positive outlook, you'll be sweet. If you have a negative outlook, you have to fix it.

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QUOTE(Bogey @ Jul 1 2008, 12:39 AM) *
lol?

"Put yourself in their shoes", or at least thats what Iheard many times from other people... if your girlfriend turns you down... what do you do? laugh.gif

No pun intended, but I don't think harming yourself is anywhere close to solving any problems. Same thing as trying to run away from your problems, they will always hunt you down.

I've never harmed myself intentionally (Other than the times I accidentally fell off my bike, or almost drowning when I went to the deep and wasn't able to swim) but to tell you the truth, I value my life. Even though I got Hapetitis C that doctors accidentally gave me trying to save me from some disease.

Some people look at the dark side and turn their backs to the bright side of things. Please don't take this the wrong way. If you are a self-harmer, than it's your own decision and should not be given any crap about how you feel and how you do things. Even if you do it just for the heck of it... waste of time, but it's your body your decision. All I can and will say is, "It's not the best idea".

( laugh.gif Look at my post number )

NO NO i tottaly agree with you, I'm just saying thats why they do it--I don't cut,burn,or any other alternative way to harm myself.
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post Jul 1 2008, 07:00 AM
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Also there are people who may be under psychosis which may harm either themselves or others. wacko.gif..I'm very familiar with that, even though i've never attempted such harm.
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Well cutting your self is 'scientifically good', i am not saying its good and do it, but the effects are good.
Everybody knows i guess... cutting your self liberates Endorphin :Wikipedia Def
So basically they feel good while doing this, i know someone that does it just for that, because he feels 'high' and good when he cut himself.

Now many people do cute them selves because they feel in pain, but how can a Mental pain be cured by a physical injury. Might say well like you said above it liberates endorphin... well does it make the pain away ? does it overwrite it ?
I personally hit my self when i am hurt some place else.... when i have a bad headache (i sometimes do) i just hit my hand on the wall so i actually know why i am hurt tongue.gif

Also some people wants to feel alive... but its crap isn't it ? damn you are f**ckin alive... can't you just ask someone to pinch you ? instead of having to cut your self ?

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I try not to judge people, i used to be judged when i was younger so i know the effect but DAMN, you must be really stupid to believe that the pain is going to go away.
I think people that cute them selves are weak, and do not want to believe they are really mentally disturbed. Somethings are wrong... well go see a DOCTOR...
I do not know if you guys knew.. but its what people do... go see a doctor when something is wrong ! Yep...

Now the strongest argument :

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there are little 10 pound 15 year old boys in africa who are raped /disesed /and dieing of hunger and i bet they dont want to harm themselfs


Self injury in attention to feel better is crap. Their are other ways, many other ways that cuting your self, hitting your self, suiciding which is somewhere i don't even want to go because its the stupidest thing i ever heard, and can't imagine when we talk about mass suicide.

Stop acting like little babies, believe that others been where you been and they survived, stop blaming others, stop acting crazy, get a little bit stronger... go have sex (it ALWAYS.. and i say it again ALWAYS solves problems...)

SEX IS THE KEY
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