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KiKoLuNa
post Dec 20 2007, 07:13 AM
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The death penalty is a deficiency of the legal system of any country. It provide support only when the goverment ran out of resources to punish a crime.

No one have the dutie to take of the life of someone else so it can't be a solution anyway.
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post Jan 19 2008, 12:08 PM
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On one of those posts on the topic about what are criminals going to do, whenever they get outta jail, they are going to go back and do the same thing they have been born and raised to do.

One of the only things Born To Kill is a bullet. (and I dont think tha bullet is excited about it, Its its job)

Alot of peoples ways are learned through repetition. And prision is supposely a place to preserve them from society and help them with their excessive behavior, and get them once again domesticated.

I dont agree with alot of the prison systems, they need to quit having prisoners associate with others. They need to have at least One year of strict isolation. Maybe the prison guard can talk to them, and maybe have family come see them 3 times a year if there good.

I think with alot of the prison systems having other prisoners communicate with other prisoners. They dont have them focus their attention on the problem that they have done. They are too much into competition. They need silence, until they find themselves, then have doctors go in there, and put the prisoner into some sort of hypnosis through association. And repeat that until they have emotional reactions about their crime. Then torture the hell outta them with psychological techinques in hopes they may be fit for society. I take that last sentence back, just threw it for the hell of it. The doctors dont actually dont have to do anything, the prisoners own conscience tortures themself through assoiciation. But the doctors should help the prisoner stay planted into reality, without trying to determine them into doin' good.

I disagree with the death penalty, I think it benefits society, mainly the money part of it, not mankind.

If a person has a choice or value of taste between two things. one gets choosen, and the other comes to a end.
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post Jan 21 2008, 01:42 AM
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SO r u gys saying pedophiles deserve a death sentance?
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post Jan 23 2008, 08:39 PM
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The death penalty is stupid. the government is a hypocrite for even allowing this there killing someone for killing someone. What sense does this make
but I don't know my judgment would be way different if someone in my family or someone I cared about a lot got killed
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post Mar 29 2008, 02:20 PM
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The death penalty should be given for severe crimes like rape, murder etc. But the death should be in the very painful means. Not just by hanging the person and he doesnt feel pain( only feels for half minute ). He should be given death slowly and gradually.
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post Mar 29 2008, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(bilal @ Mar 29 2008, 08:20 AM) *
He should be given death slowly and gradually.

If you were my judge, I'd be screwed.
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post Mar 29 2008, 08:17 PM
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Hehe, I've just read the whole three pages and some very important key factors here.
I have to admit, I would be very bias if it happened to a relative of mine or even a friend. But this all rerfers to the bible in my opinion, No. I am not religous in anyway (Unless you say eating,shitting and sleeping is a religion biggrin.gif) People kill for various reasons.. They themselves know it's wrong. If the Death Penalty was to come back here in the UK, Some people might consider their actions. For example, Someone wants to rob a bank, They think long and hard about it for a few solid weeks. They calculate their advantages and dis-advantages, It practically works out at 10-15 years imprisoment. If they are, let's say 20.. by the time they are 35, They could come out of jail and be rolling in it. But if the Death Penalty was lingering anxiously, Would they even consider doing it? Don't think so.
As I mentioned above about the bible. 'An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth' is very very accurate. You think about a Boxing Match, He punches you.. What do you do? Give 'em a good punch back. Life's a viscious cycle which will never stop.
Personally in my eyes I think the Death Penalty should be legal now. They have the technology to find out if somone is Guilty or Innocent.
Ofcourse, it depends on the crime. I wouldn't suggest if you stole a chocolate bar or something you get hung for it. I mean something like Attempted Murder, man Slaughter etc etc. That's a good time to throw it in to play. Plus, The money factor: Ok, Quite cheap really to Grab a rope, a high raised building and a flag pole, Your home made gallows. But how much would you need to pay the executionar? Can you imagine how he/she must feel? and the harassment wouldn't be very good either. After all, they are only doing their job.. Just like a referee in football, He sends of a Striker and gets Dogs Abuse from the rest of the players LOL

Anyway, I agree with the Death Penalty.
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post Mar 29 2008, 08:56 PM
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In my opinion and in the words of a funny man "if you kill some one...we will kill you back" it teaches you if you kill some one you WILL die
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post Mar 29 2008, 09:42 PM
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Well, We all have to die at some point.. Some people take fate into their own hands and kill people.
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post Mar 29 2008, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(Valency @ Mar 29 2008, 03:42 PM) *
Well, We all have to die at some point.. Some people take fate into their own hands and kill people.

Homicide.
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post Mar 30 2008, 02:39 AM
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Sure is.
Mutilation for the nation biggrin.gif
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post Mar 30 2008, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(Tom @ Dec 12 2007, 04:29 PM) *
I didn't say justice. I said punishment. wink.gif
Learn to respect opinion. I think your disapproval of citizen-based justice is fucking sick, because you'd rather let a man's livelihood go down the shitter than two criminal scumbags lose their lives, consequently preventing future crimes. Seems warped to me, but I can respect where you come from even if I don't agree with it.

That aside, I am in the firm belief that if people are on someone else's property (especially your own, Libertarianism lol) without permission and with every intent to bring harm in any way, shape or form into someone's life, it is within your right to stop them by force, and if this includes killing then so be it - as long as it is an absolute certainty. This would never pass in real life though.

With the state of the police these days and the bureaucracy surrounding justice, taking the law into your own hands is a good idea, even if the courts don't like it.

I agree, but the old whit man could of warn them he had a gun and if they didn't stop he would shoot, but still if they ignored him the first time about calling the cops then fine kill them.
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post Mar 31 2008, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(Tom @ Mar 29 2008, 06:05 PM) *
After doing some research I found out HOW expensive the death penalty is -- turns out it's far more expensive than life imprisonment. Obviously it's not the death itself, but the appeals process & surrounding legal framework. Which is why I believe it should only be used for consistent offenders; cases in which it will save money and time in the long run.


i was shocked that no-one had allready posted this (and i was going to post it ~ damn you tongue.gif).

QUOTE(Tom @ Mar 29 2008, 06:05 PM) *
Consequently, if, in the UK, a life sentence MEANT a life sentence, I would not support the death penalty at all.


again, i was going to make this point.


Someone said these people should be isolated from each other; i disagree, make life life, bung them all in one open compound and let them make their own rules based on their individual values, see how long they last. Oh and post an army around the outside to shoot any escapess (with non fatal rounds ofcourse wink.gif) and to escort them back .. that'll sort the problem and probably work out cheaper for the taxpayer
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post Mar 31 2008, 09:27 PM
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Sounds like a good idea in my opinion smile.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 06:12 AM
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yeah I now think if it comes down to it elementry text books are better then killing a guy that could just be imprisioned for the rest of his life...
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post Apr 18 2008, 05:01 PM
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Loool. Some of you guys are pretty harsh ;p
Death isn't the punishment for a robbery, now, is it?

Why was race bought into it anyway (two black, one white? lolol) - seems somewhat unecessary.
The story would've still worked out the same if you removed all the 'black' and 'white' from it.

Anyhoo,

Personally I believe that humans are incapable of justice. Everyone has a different perception of the world, bias is a large part of any legal system. I believe that some crimes are worthy of death, like genocide, for example. However, this is just my opinion, my 'bias'. The words 'opinion' and 'bias' are almost interchangeable.

Whatever your opinion, it is biased, not justice.

A more systematic approach would be better...

e.g.

"But let your words be simply, Yes or No: and whatever is more than these is of the Evil One"
Quote from bible (because it is very logical if you take time to read it).

Although in terms of passing a judgement it would be more like:
Is theft wrong?
Is killing wrong?

Yes and Yes - but even though they're both wrong, what about the circumstances?? The old man had good intentions, but then the robbers might also have had good intentions.
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It has now passed the point to which humans can pass justice correctly, and after this point everything becomes opinion/bias.

And then the little rabbit laughed at the big rabbit's logic and died. The End.





Thought I might aswell post because I'm bored biggrin.gif
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post Apr 19 2008, 04:37 PM
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post Aug 28 2010, 03:41 AM
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i don't believe on death penalties. human are created in the image and likeness of God. and as a catholic i strongly disagree on this because doing so is just like killing though there was a crime committed. it is only God who can decide whether its time for His child to be with him or should he stay on earth.
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post Oct 21 2010, 08:51 PM
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I don't believe in the death penalty. but people that do horrible and i mean horrible crimes like sexual child abused, should be punish according to what they did, so they can experience the same pain they cause to the person they harmed.

(just an opinion)
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post Mar 8 2011, 02:22 PM
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The death penalty is a synonym for barbarism. We're not in medieval times since a while...
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