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 Dec 15 2007, 04:02 PM
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 Marvellous Ninja  Group: Members Posts: 537 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Kansas =\ Member No.: 48  |
Well if someone is wrongly convicted, If I were them I would want to just die and not spend the rest of my life getting raped and beaten...
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Dec 15 2007, 07:35 PM
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Super Duper Ninja Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 22-September 07 From: Qatar Member No.: 427 |
I am completely against the death penalty. nobody deserves that. even people who are "bad" in the eyes of the law are "good" to someone else. the death penalty is just too... harsh. plus, despite any evidence, you never really know that a person actually did the crime they were convicted for. with their own life at stake, why would anybody admit to anything? I was really upset when Saddam Hussein was hung or beheaded or whatever happened to him. The british millitary and Iraqi people might have seen him as evil but from my point of view, he did Iraq a lot of good. Look how corrupt the country is without him. You need a hard guy like Hussein to keep a country like that under control. Also, killing people who kill people doesn't really solve a problem. Two wrongs don't make a right. The death penalty is wrong.
@EMOruffino that doesn't work. True, the black guys were probably armed but still - nobody has the right to kill anybody. the white guy didn't know why they were robbing the house, who they were, why they had chosen that house. he doesn't have the right to judge wether they deserve to die or not. its wrong. |
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Dec 15 2007, 07:44 PM
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 Super Ninja Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Missoula, Montana Member No.: 3,909 |
QUOTE(grumpy @ Dec 15 2007, 12:35 PM)  I am completely against the death penalty. nobody deserves that. even people who are "bad" in the eyes of the law are "good" to someone else. the death penalty is just too... harsh. plus, despite any evidence, you never really know that a person actually did the crime they were convicted for. with their own life at stake, why would anybody admit to anything? I was really upset when Saddam Hussein was hung or beheaded or whatever happened to him. The british millitary and Iraqi people might have seen him as evil but from my point of view, he did Iraq a lot of good. Look how corrupt the country is without him. You need a hard guy like Hussein to keep a country like that under control. Also, killing people who kill people doesn't really solve a problem. Two wrongs don't make a right. The death penalty is wrong. @EMOruffino that doesn't work. True, the black guys were probably armed but still - nobody has the right to kill anybody. the white guy didn't know why they were robbing the house, who they were, why they had chosen that house. he doesn't have the right to judge wether they deserve to die or not. its wrong. Wow... I'm assuming you do not live in USA, if you do...let me reiterate the Wow... Saddam Hussein is considered a Terrorist in the United States, it was right that he was hanged. If you support terrorism, and the death and destruction of many lives, then what ever floats your boat dude. Saddam changed Iraq, but among a Terroist Saddam was a Racist. Killing many indeginous peoples of his native country. The Sunni/Shiite crap... What Saddam did was wrong on so many levels. He terrorized one of the World's Powers, now we are trying to help his country. Give the help that Saddam did not give, to do whats right and bring freedom to the Iraqi people, not kill them. You are sick if you support that man. The Death Penalty is not harsh, period. We took his life because he was one of the persons responsible for the 9/11 attacks. He was part in responsible for taking so many lives, is it not so cruel to take his life? Give him the ultimate punishment that he gave so many more Americans. Shame on you Grumpy. |
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Dec 15 2007, 08:08 PM
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Super Ninja Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Missoula, Montana Member No.: 3,909 |
QUOTE(Tom @ Dec 15 2007, 12:56 PM) People like that need a sense of control and direction provided by totalitarianism as without it all hell would break loose. Its called Laws. QUOTE(Tom @ Dec 15 2007, 12:56 PM) Shut up paranoid, learn to understand the concept of opinion. No, learn the concept of my opinion, that is my opinion. QUOTE(Tom @ Dec 15 2007, 12:56 PM) Edit: Excuse me? Since when was Saddam Hussein affiliated with 9/11?  Tom, your located in London. Different country, different ideas/opinions, and different form of government. Democracy is a better form of Government than having a Dictatorship. |
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Dec 15 2007, 08:10 PM
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Super Duper Ninja Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 22-September 07 From: Qatar Member No.: 427 |
QUOTE(Paranoid @ Dec 15 2007, 07:44 PM) Wow... I'm assuming you do not live in USA, if you do...let me reiterate the Wow... Saddam Hussein is considered a Terrorist in the United States, it was right that he was hanged. If you support terrorism, and the death and destruction of many lives, then what ever floats your boat dude. Saddam changed Iraq, but among a Terroist Saddam was a Racist. Killing many indeginous peoples of his native country. The Sunni/Shiite crap... What Saddam did was wrong on so many levels. He terrorized one of the World's Powers, now we are trying to help his country. Give the help that Saddam did not give, to do whats right and bring freedom to the Iraqi people, not kill them. You are sick if you support that man. The Death Penalty is not harsh, period. We took his life because he was one of the persons responsible for the 9/11 attacks. He was part in responsible for taking so many lives, is it not so cruel to take his life? Give him the ultimate punishment that he gave so many more Americans. Shame on you Grumpy. i wasn't saying he was the good guy, but if you can just look an compare: Iraq with saddam hussein as a dictator and Iraq under the US and British military. There's been a lot of death and destruction in both scenes but at least before, there wasn't the corruption., the civil hatred. all the stupid car bombs and shit where they're just killing each other instead of helping their country. and no, i don't live in the USA. |
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Dec 15 2007, 08:13 PM
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Super Ninja Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Missoula, Montana Member No.: 3,909 |
QUOTE(grumpy @ Dec 15 2007, 01:10 PM) i wasn't saying he was the good guy, but if you can just look an compare: Iraq with saddam hussein as a dictator and Iraq under the US and British military. There's been a lot of death and destruction in both scenes but at least before, there wasn't the corruption., the civil hatred. all the stupid car bombs and shit where they're just killing each other instead of helping their country. and no, i don't live in the USA. I hate to break it to you, but Iraq has been in a civil war for what seems like forever. Religion is the major play in that. The US and British military have done a lot to resolve that, and with the US elections coming up we will probably be pulling out of there sooner. Making Iraq even more democratic. @Tom Stop linking retarded WikiPedia articles. |
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Dec 15 2007, 08:22 PM
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Super Duper Ninja Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 22-September 07 From: Qatar Member No.: 427 |
ok ok. i don't give too much of a shit about global issues anyway.//
the US are being nice. good for them. |
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Dec 15 2007, 08:26 PM
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Super Ninja Group: Members Posts: 385 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Missoula, Montana Member No.: 3,909 |
Yea...
Back to the topic. Is the Death Penalty wrong? |
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Dec 16 2007, 05:48 AM
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 they call me ruffi Group: Moderators Posts: 1,651 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Hell Paso Member No.: 245 |
Everything is the USA's fault, but we just do the killing to quite it down....
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Dec 16 2007, 05:54 AM
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Ninja Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 19-September 07 Member No.: 126 |
Hooah for murder! Death Penalty wont ever leave, it's been around since God created Man.
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Dec 18 2007, 12:03 AM
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 Marvellous Ninja  Group: Community Helper Posts: 533 Joined: 30-May 07 From: England Member No.: 13 |
I'm all for the Death Penalty, and wished they would bring it back in UK! I think the last person that got Death Penalty in UK was in 1964.
..But recently a local man was stabbed to death on his Door step..all beacuse he asked some Youths to keep noise down outside of his house, so his new born son would settle down. 2 of them got life in prison(isn't that long in UK) and can't remember what other one got! but i know it wasn't life.. because he was only 15 or something. But I really do think the Death Penalty would really sort things out in UK. Less knife crime, etc etc. |
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Dec 18 2007, 12:13 AM
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 Member Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 16-December 07 From: Nowhere Member No.: 5,080 |
There's just one thing I dislike about the death penalty. As humans we are imperfect, and one wrong judgment can ruin a person's life permanently. As in they won't come back.
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Dec 18 2007, 01:07 AM
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Marvellous Ninja Group: Members Posts: 537 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Kansas =\ Member No.: 48 |
Like I said before, drunken bar brawl = mistake = no death
Pre-Medatated, Rape, then stabbing a few times = psycho = DEAD! lol |
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Dec 18 2007, 01:42 AM
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 Outrageously Uber Ninja Group: Moderators Posts: 1,562 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 86 |
Wow, I just had a discussion about this in my English Seminar class. What the problem related to death penalty is, is the fact that those that are being placed until this termination program were convicted of their crime early in the days when DNA testing was not discovered. Now, the day of advanced technology, we begin to proof those crimes. The more we try, the more we figure out our sin. I think the percentage of innocent people being murdered under the death penalty was about 69%. They were proven innocent. According to the news, New Jersey will most likely abolish Capitol Punishment/Death Penalty and New York will most likely follow.
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Dec 18 2007, 03:50 AM
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Marvellous Ninja Group: Members Posts: 537 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Kansas =\ Member No.: 48 |
Lol and San Fransisco ...they are hippies
 But Texas will never, According to Ron White they put in an express lane
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Dec 18 2007, 05:12 AM
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Outrageously Uber Ninja Group: Moderators Posts: 1,562 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 86 |
I honestly think that Texas honestly believe they are their own country.
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Dec 18 2007, 05:35 AM
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they call me ruffi Group: Moderators Posts: 1,651 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Hell Paso Member No.: 245 |
QUOTE(IamShipon1988 @ Dec 17 2007, 11:12 PM) I honestly think that Texas honestly believe they are their own country. I'm glad you said that, because from the people i have met from Texas, thats the way it seems.... |
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Dec 18 2007, 10:53 PM
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 Super Duper Ninja Group: Members Posts: 453 Joined: 8-October 07 From: PA Member No.: 1,056 |
Here's how I look at it. Murder isn't just black and white. Death and Life. You can't just say "This guy killed him, so lets treat him with the same punishment." Sometimes people have reasons for killing others and I'm not saying it's okay to... far from it. Killers die and Drunks go to jail... ehhh. Theres a light shade of gray but there's so much more. It can go so much deeper. Just because someone is killed, the murderer isn't a psycho. There are reasons to what people do. When there aren't... then those people are the psychos.
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Dec 18 2007, 11:27 PM
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Marvellous Ninja Group: Members Posts: 537 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Kansas =\ Member No.: 48 |
Well like a battered wife who has no other way...I think she should go to prison, If she gets off easy then it messes with her look on punishment for murder, If she got away with killing her husband then she would think 'Hmm...My new boyfriend and I are in a (non physical) fight and he was very out of line for calling me out on what he had a problem with...I can just kill him and say he beat me.'
OR if she goes to prison for a few years: 'Hmm...My new boyfriend and I are in a (non physical) fight...I am sure we will get through this, Thank god he doesn't hurt me...I really hated prison' Now like I said earlier case by case...Thats why there are trials and its not just black and white. |
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Dec 18 2007, 11:37 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 16-December 07 Member No.: 5,083 |
could i just go back to the point were some one said something about 2 black peeps robbing a house... the ethonic minorities will always win racism court cases as our goverment is weak... it should be fair for all... if not then realy the goverment is being racist
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