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Election
Who would you vote for?
Obama [ 38 ] ** [22.62%]
McCain [ 20 ] ** [11.90%]
Other [ 6 ] ** [3.57%]
Screw voting! [ 3 ] ** [1.79%]
Undecided [ 1 ] ** [0.60%]
The Queen [ 100 ] ** [59.52%]
Total Votes: 68
  
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post Sep 1 2008, 11:37 PM
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Im only 14 and still cant vote but..I go for McCain why?
because all my brothers are in the NAVY and they say go for McCain!
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post Sep 2 2008, 01:50 AM
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well you go ahead and do what your brothers do , even though your probably havent done any reserch on your own about it....
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post Sep 2 2008, 02:10 AM
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QUOTE(Eagle 1 @ Sep 1 2008, 11:13 PM) *
This country was also built on the freedom of religion and the guarantees of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Christian leaders, yes, but we are not bound by any religious law or statements on choice. Of the freedom of choice and the right to life, life takes precedent, since without it, there'd be nothing to get any freedom wink.gif

Once a life is made, it should not be destroyed. Whatever a person does to him/herself is their business, but it's not anyone's call to make the decision on whether or not someone should even get the chance to live.


See, now we're going to start an American history lesson.

First argument of more to come.
From Bill of Rights:
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

These rights are clearly stated to those who have been born. An unborn child doesnt have these rights, especially seeing how an unborn child doesnt have a country of origin yet so they cannot be held to any rights, regardless of country.

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well you go ahead and do what your brothers do , even though your probably havent done any reserch on your own about it....

I agree, make your choice based on your opinion.
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post Sep 2 2008, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE(SwintellSoft @ Sep 2 2008, 11:50 AM) *
well you go ahead and do what your brothers do , even though your probably havent done any reserch on your own about it....


his brothers are in the navy though, in the war. if they say go with McCain, do they really think the war is horrid?
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post Sep 2 2008, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(wozzym @ Sep 2 2008, 04:05 AM) *
his brothers are in the navy though, in the war. if they say go with McCain, do they really think the war is horrid?


Um, ok. But McCain said hes willing to keep the war going on for the next 50 years...Do you want your kids, and their kids all having to live with this fricken war?
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post Sep 2 2008, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(wozzym @ Sep 2 2008, 04:05 AM) *
his brothers are in the navy though, in the war. if they say go with McCain, do they really think the war is horrid?


this war is horrid , i could link you to a website after website of ppl in this war being beheaded by not only terroists but US military as well....

Just becuase his brothers are this navy....wich hardly go into ground fighting, doesnt mean they know how bad it is...

i would take the advice WAY better from a marine or an army ranger wayyyy more then from the navy....
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post Sep 3 2008, 12:54 AM
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and neither of you really know the truth either. I have family and friends in the war as marines and air force. Its bad, and we do need to get out of there and lay low for a while, but in reality, you cant just jump out of a country by snapping your fingers. we are already withdrawing from there. But we cannot just rush out.
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post Sep 3 2008, 02:16 AM
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true thats why obama is slowly with drawing troops....
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post Sep 3 2008, 10:56 AM
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Any of you guys here about the 3 protesters arrested at the Republican Convention last night? They were protesting against poverty...
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post Sep 4 2008, 02:08 AM
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This country was also built on the freedom of religion and the guarantees of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Christian leaders, yes, but we are not bound by any religious law or statements on choice. Of the freedom of choice and the right to life, life takes precedent, since without it, there'd be nothing to get any freedom wink.gif

Once a life is made, it should not be destroyed. Whatever a person does to him/herself is their business, but it's not anyone's call to make the decision on whether or not someone should even get the chance to live.


Im moving to the US in less than a week to check it out... since i hav the freedom of life and all.. you think i can get a green card or something ?
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post Sep 4 2008, 03:41 AM
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I wouldnt suggest moving here at all.... alot of ppl say "well america is free and this and that" but it turns out it sucks...


now i would suggest you just come here and stay an imigrint lol they seem to have more rights then citizens...


oh and here are some mcain quotes

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1. "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you c*nt." --to his wife, Cindy, after she playfully twirled his hair and said "You're getting a little thin up there," as reported in the book The Real McCain by Cliff Schecter

2. "Make it a hundred...That would be fine with me." --to a questioner who asked if he supported President Bush's vision for keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 50 years, Derry, New Hampshire, Jan. 3, 2008

"I think -- I'll have my staff get to you. It's condominiums where -- I'll have them get to you." --after being asked how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own, interview with Politico, Las Cruces, N.M., Aug. 20, 2008

4. "You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Iran? Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran."

5. "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should. I've got Greenspan's book."

6. "We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies."

7. "I will veto every single beer, um, bill with earmarks."

8. "I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself. I don't expect to be a great communicator, I don't expect to set up my own blog, but I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need."

9.  "We have a lot of work to do. It's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq-Pakistan border."

10. "I was looking at the Sturgis schedule, and noticed that you had a beauty pageant, so I encouraged Cindy to compete. I told her [that] with a little luck, she could be the only woman to serve as both the First Lady and Miss Buffalo Chip." --on the annual Miss Buffalo Chip Pageant, which features topless (and occasionally bottomless) contestants,


This is Souce HERE

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post Sep 4 2008, 08:11 AM
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I don't trust quotes. Sourced or not, unless there was audio/video proof, then i might start to believe it. I'm just that type of person, especially with all the photoshoppers and video editors in this world, a video still could lie.

And I have a problem with reporters, most of them are scumbags it seems. They twist quotes around until they suit their story. Make the quotee sound like a complete douche and wrong. I'm not saying that the quotes are fake, and I'm definitely not supporting McCain, I'm just saying I won't believe the quotes myself.
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post Sep 4 2008, 02:23 PM
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If obama would be more consistent and have more experience, I would actually like him. he has some good ideas, but its hard to tell which ones will actually be used if he's elected. He is also inexperienced and has never run a power of any sort.
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post Sep 5 2008, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(Trippin7464 @ Sep 4 2008, 08:11 AM) *
I don't trust quotes. Sourced or not, unless there was audio/video proof, then i might start to believe it. I'm just that type of person, especially with all the photoshoppers and video editors in this world, a video still could lie.

And I have a problem with reporters, most of them are scumbags it seems. They twist quotes around until they suit their story. Make the quotee sound like a complete douche and wrong. I'm not saying that the quotes are fake, and I'm definitely not supporting McCain, I'm just saying I won't believe the quotes myself.

If you look on the source each quote has its own video proof that mcain himself is saying it


QUOTE(wozzym @ Sep 4 2008, 02:23 PM) *
If obama would be more consistent and have more experience, I would actually like him. he has some good ideas, but its hard to tell which ones will actually be used if he's elected. He is also inexperienced and has never run a power of any sort.


Im really not for either i was for ron paul before he dropped out , but now its one or the other and I think obama might change since mcain is saying himself he is a retard look at the quotes lol
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post Sep 7 2008, 01:33 PM
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Sarah Palin anybody?

I personally think she is just the fresh of breath air the republicans needed.

I'm really enjoying following everything here in Britain. American politics is a bit like a soap opera, more entertaining than Eastenders anyway!
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post Sep 7 2008, 02:41 PM
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Sarah Palin is actually good. People are just trying to give her trash because her daughters pregnant, e.t.c. And then obama doesnt think being the governor of Alaska is flashy enough. But in fact she has more experience then him as a vp, and hes the other running president? politics...
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QUOTE(wozzym @ Sep 7 2008, 02:41 PM) *
Sarah Palin is actually good. People are just trying to give her trash because her daughters pregnant, e.t.c. And then obama doesnt think being the governor of Alaska is flashy enough. But in fact she has more experience then him as a vp, and hes the other running president? politics...


I would like her if she wasnt so anti-abortion. She seems like a smart lady, but I just dont like some of the things she stands for.
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dont even bring up anti-abortion as being a bad thing. seriously mate.
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QUOTE(wozzym @ Sep 7 2008, 07:01 PM) *
dont even bring up anti-abortion as being a bad thing. seriously mate.


I dont see how it is a good thing. What possible harm is there in being pro-choice. If you dont want a kid, you dont have to have one. If you do want a kid, no one's telling you you cant. The fetus has no rights, but the adults do.
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QUOTE(Tom @ Sep 7 2008, 08:21 PM) *
What? It's called choice.


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