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Mccain Or Obama? |
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Sep 26 2008, 12:44 AM
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Marvellous Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 6-July 08 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 43,434 |
Sarah Palin anybody? I personally think she is just the fresh of breath air the republicans needed. I'm really enjoying following everything here in Britain. American politics is a bit like a soap opera, more entertaining than Eastenders anyway! Lol, fresh of breath air huh? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg I love how she says that the Russians will attack Alaska first. Like anyone would do that, too much of a waste of their time. |
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Sep 26 2008, 10:29 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 26-September 08 Member No.: 61,545 |
In my opinion, Barack Obama is an excellent choice for President. He is well-educated and well-spoken. He has great ideas and conveys the charm and diplomacy to unify the nation. Barack is not only a African decent, but also he is most qualified candidates of the election. Also he has strong ideas for changing the nation from incompetent mismanagement of Bush.
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Sep 26 2008, 10:33 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 9-June 08 From: New York Member No.: 34,426 |
Lol, fresh of breath air huh? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg I love how she says that the Russians will attack Alaska first. Like anyone would do that, too much of a waste of their time. Alaska is a huge strategic target. We've sent fighters up from Elmendorf and Eielson Air Force Bases to intercept Russian bombers on several occasions. Alaska is the start of the North American air defense shield from Russia. Any enemy that attacks from our West (specifically Northwest) would be insane not to go after Alaska as a primary target, followed by targets in Canada and along the western part of the United States. Also, the oil we've got up there - a great prize for any wouldbe invader. The National Guard would also be key in any engagement with an enemy to keep them from getting a foothold in Alaska, and guess who's been in charge of the Alaska Air and Army National Guard Edit: By the way, I think you'll find this pretty interesting: http://www.alaskaairguard.com/Clear.html The primary mission of Clear AFS is to provide Early Warning of Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) and Sea-Launched Ballistic Missiles (SLBMs) to the Missile Correlation Center (MCC) at North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) Hmm, seems to me like that would be an important thing for us to have. |
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Oct 13 2008, 11:26 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 13-October 08 Member No.: 64,158 |
I vote for Barack Obama. He is new, fresh spirit, not afraid with the challenges of the moment. I think he could also be a good partner for foreign leaders to show the power of America, without giving the impression of being rude. Apart from this, he's also the right man to bring back better economy and a better society.
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Oct 14 2008, 04:21 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 62,377 |
in my view, they both suck..
oh and something else: obama will never be able to keep up his promises.. if he for example wants to stop all wars the us has, then 50% of the us economy goes down.. the pressure will be so big that he will HAVE to go to war with us troops |
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Oct 14 2008, 04:38 PM
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Outrageously Uber Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,805 Joined: 10-July 08 From: UK Member No.: 44,994 |
Because it supports the economy is hardly a reason to go to war. And if it's why we're there, we should definitely stop.
swordz |
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Oct 14 2008, 08:48 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 81 Joined: 30-September 08 Member No.: 62,033 |
Obama, (MY VOTE)
Hes a Democrat Mccain, Republican Why should the working men give their money to the people thats already rich? |
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Oct 17 2008, 11:10 PM
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![]() PHP Programmer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 895 Joined: 9-March 08 From: Naples, FL Member No.: 13,296 |
Well.... Obama is highest in polls (once again).
I watched the last debate (the first one I actually watched)... Mccain just made himself look like an ass. Nearly every time he tried to say something bad about Obama's theories Obama just basically blew him out of the water by proving McCain wrong. "Here, Plumber Joe, here is how much you will be fined. ZERO." I thought that was great. Basically, I think Obama owned that debate big time. He answered all the questions with not only WHAT he wanted to do but HOW he wanted to do it. Mccain just said 'what' he wanted to do without elaborating much at all. The ONLY good thing Mccain did, in my opinion of course, is say to Obama something like "I'm not Bush. If you wanted to run against Bush you should have ran 4 years ago." But even so, he showed his anger which isn't a good thing. Obama kept his cool. Also, Mccain -basically- called Obama a terrorist... When they were on the subject of a 'dirty campaign' Obama said he thought it was wrong that Palin didn't say -anything- when people were screaming 'terrorist! kill him!' at one of her speeches. And what did Mccain say? Basically (I don't remember word for word): "I'm proud of them. They're patriotic" Or somethign similar... I don't know how other people took it but I took it that he pretty much called Obama a terrorist.. He even mentioned Obama being 'linked' to a terrorist group too though that one guy (forget his name) which Obama said he's kept bringing up even though it's been disproved. It really make me sick watching it, but it was interesting. It's gonna be just as close as Gore and Bush, this election will. |
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Oct 18 2008, 03:08 PM
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Marvellous Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 6-July 08 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 43,434 |
That Obama having breakfast with a terrorist crap was just stupid. I mean, don't they have any good arguments against him?
O no, Obama had breakfast with a terrorist 20 years ago in a diner, we cant have that for a president. Honestly, how scared are the American people of terrorists? It is one of the worst arguments I've heard in a long time. As for the debates, McCain hasnt told me a damn thing about what he plans on doing. All I've heard from him is what Obama is going to do. Don't get me wrong, Obama has been talking crap about McCain aswell, but at least Obama talks about what he is going to do. I want McCain to talk about what he is going to do, not what Obama is going to do. |
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Oct 21 2008, 12:06 AM
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![]() Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 170 Joined: 26-March 08 Member No.: 15,644 |
lol mccain doesnt talk about what hes going to do becuase he knows it sucks XD how ever im not an obama supporter either
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Oct 21 2008, 02:19 AM
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![]() Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 27-May 08 From: Indiana,USA Member No.: 30,352 |
Obama. Also I really hate when people call him a terrorist just because his middle name is Hussein.
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Oct 21 2008, 10:59 AM
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Marvellous Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 6-July 08 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 43,434 |
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Oct 29 2008, 01:30 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 20-January 08 Member No.: 7,514 |
None of the candidates are really "the best" here in this election. It's more of "pick the lesser of two evils."
My vote is for John McCain. If any of who know who the governor of Massachusetts is, Deval Patrick, then you know that another like him, Barack Obama, would be a bad choice. They want the fame and glory, but they could care less to their state, city, town employees. They'll raise your taxes and make you pay through the roof, but they'll also be getting a nice pay raise to pay for their expensive lives. Another thing, why should any of us who saved and worked for what we wanted have to pay for someone with the same options, but chose to do nothing with them? Sure, McCain did make the mistake of trying to make Obama look bad the past few weeks. And don't even kid about Sara Palin. Maybe the people against her are just scared that she might not have all the answers now, but because she's a woman and she might actually accomplish something compared to all these other talkers. You might be surprised what some might do if they get the chance. |
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Oct 29 2008, 06:41 PM
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Marvellous Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 536 Joined: 6-July 08 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 43,434 |
They'll raise your taxes and make you pay through the roof, but they'll also be getting a nice pay raise to pay for their expensive lives. Another thing, why should any of us who saved and worked for what we wanted have to pay for someone with the same options, but chose to do nothing with them? Do you understand Obama's tax policy? His policy is that you will get taxed base on your annual salary, not how much money you have. This is to take pressure off of the lower-class families who can just barely afford their taxes. The idea is that people making buku-bucks should contribute more to the country instead of just hording all their money to waste. Oh and by the way, Obama has openly said that he is in the category of people who will have to pay the higher taxes. However, based on the amount pay the president gets, he will only be paying about an additional $12 for taxes, opposed to John McCain's plan, in which he will end up saving about $7,871. Who is greedier here? Obviously John McCain will be the one who will be paying the least. I will add the chart for the taxes at the bottom of post. Sarah Palin has said many stupid things, so I will just mention a few. Abortion Constitution does offer an inherent right to privacy. (Oct 2008) Choose life, even if her own daughter were raped. (Nov 2006) Economy Predatory lenders got us into the housing crisis. (Oct 2008) Civil Rights Non-support of anything but traditional marriage. (Oct 2008) Hillary put 18 million cracks in glass ceiling. (Sep 2008) Vetoed bill denying benefits to gays, as unconstitutional. (Aug 2008) HIV/AIDS among Alaska Natives is public health crisis. (Mar 2008) Comply with same-sex partner benefits despite disagreement. (Dec 2006) Marriage only be between and man and a woman. (Nov 2006) Prefers term "anti-rural" to "anti-Native". (Nov 2006) Special legislative session on same-sex health benefits. (Nov 2006) Ok to deny benefits to homosexual couples. (Aug 2006) No spousal benefits for same-sex couples. (Jul 2006) Top priorities include preserving definition of "marriage". (Jul 2006) Corporations Governor must act as effective CEO on behalf of Alaskans. (Nov 2006) There is a long list so I'll just leave the url: http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_Palin.htm Here is a list of Palin's beliefs: Strongly Opposes (strongly disagrees with the following ideas) Abortion is a woman's right. Same-sex domestic partnership benefits US out of Iraq Opposes (disagrees with the following ideas) Replace coal & oil with alternatives Privatize Social Security More federal funding for health coverage Make taxes more progressive Illegal immigrants earn citizenship The Patriot Act harms civil liberties Strongly Favors (strongly agrees with the following ideas) Teacher-led prayer in public schools Death Penalty Mandatory Three Strikes sentencing laws Absolute right to gun ownership Expand the armed forces (by promoting in Alaska's National Guard) Another good thing Obama will do is giving tax reductions to companies that do not outsource. This is an attempt to keep the jobs inside the country and help create more jobs. If you want to go deeper into why exactly you find the decrepit old man better, I will be more than happy to tell you why Obama is a better choice. Tax Plans McCain Obama Income Average Change Average Change Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885 $603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974 $227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12 $161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789 $112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204 $66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290 $38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042 $19K-$38K -$113 -$892 Under $19K -$19 -$567 |
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Nov 4 2008, 09:01 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 4-November 08 Member No.: 67,537 |
I think Obama will win and I vote for Barack Obama. I think he is the right person bring back better economy and a better society.
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Nov 4 2008, 09:52 AM
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![]() Outrageously Uber Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 5,140 Joined: 11-May 08 From: Australia Member No.: 25,876 |
If Obama gets in, he is just going to be assassinated. I don't mind the lad but Americans are ready for an african-american President.
Jacob. |
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Nov 4 2008, 06:43 PM
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![]() Super Duper Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 445 Joined: 24-January 08 From: Scotland! Member No.: 7,936 |
To be honest, I don't care who gets in house this time - I don't even live in America but I think Obama would make a good president, but like every other politicain now a days, he just says what the people want to hear then goes and does the complete oppisite.
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Nov 5 2008, 04:11 AM
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![]() Outrageously Uber Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 5,140 Joined: 11-May 08 From: Australia Member No.: 25,876 |
YAYY! Obama is the new president.
Jacob. |
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Nov 5 2008, 04:25 AM
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![]() Super Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 357 Joined: 4-November 07 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 2,317 |
Barack Obama has beaten all stereotypes.
Who would've thought, a black man bamed Barack Hussein Obama, would be president of one of the most racist countries in the world? This is seriously amazing. |
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Nov 5 2008, 03:28 PM
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![]() Outrageously Uber Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,562 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 86 |
Wow a sweeping victory, with nearly 50% more electoral votes. Now his job...give us what he promised. From what I have heard, Obama is already getting death threats. This will be one hard presidential term.
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