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Election
Who would you vote for?
Obama [ 38 ] ** [22.62%]
McCain [ 20 ] ** [11.90%]
Other [ 6 ] ** [3.57%]
Screw voting! [ 3 ] ** [1.79%]
Undecided [ 1 ] ** [0.60%]
The Queen [ 100 ] ** [59.52%]
Total Votes: 68
  
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post Aug 16 2008, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(Sean223 @ Aug 16 2008, 03:16 PM) *
Yup. We're not "world police". We're just greedy. laugh.gif


actually, the UN was designed to be the "world police". Fantastic fricken job they're doing, huh.
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post Aug 16 2008, 07:41 PM
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Well, based on Bush's approval ratings, I vote Obama. Mccain will basically do the same thing as him, most republican leaders want money, war (which leads to profits, so again money), and generally do not care for the lower class or middle class. I usually am Republican in my presidential views but I am sick and tired of US and Iraq caused violence and high gas prices.
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post Aug 16 2008, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(daaru31 @ Aug 16 2008, 01:41 PM) *
Well, based on Bush's approval ratings, I vote Obama. Mccain will basically do the same thing as him, most republican leaders want money, war (which leads to profits, so again money), and generally do not care for the lower class or middle class. I usually am Republican in my presidential views but I am sick and tired of US and Iraq caused violence and high gas prices.


Well thank you for changing your normal views to support reason. I truly respect it when people not only support a candidate but do it out of their normal voting. smile.gif
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post Aug 16 2008, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Sean223 @ Aug 15 2008, 11:36 PM) *
Haha, seriously? Ya, if I were president I would look across the room "nonchalantly" several times, and continue reading. Haha. He didn't even ask who or where or why or anything! Oh, dear. It wasn't really my "point" but more of a funny thing.

If people were telling the President that something happened to the country, they wouldn't hold back information - or they'd at least say he needed to leave and get more information elsewhere.

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I agree with you on news (thank you for realizing CNN is fair). wink.gif

Thank you for agreeing with me there smile.gif

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I am not going to comment on anything else you said. It would be a waste of my time. you wouldn't care anyway. I've told you my view, so now I'm done. If anyone else has a comment though, I'd happily answer (even if you disagree with me). smile.gif

I care about all views, so long as they're presented fully and not just "half-views" or statements that have no backing like most people give me. I've had plenty of conversations with people who presented good arguments for their side, and where both of us have admitted faults.

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Eagle 1, please realize I'm only disliking your political arguements nothing else. And a bit of the reason I'm not replying is because you are about as stubborn as i am. That and it makes me a little angry. smile.gif

I know, I've got no negative feelings against you. My stubbornness relates to some things more than others. When I know I'm correct and have the facts on my side, I won't budge, but if there is information I don't know, I'm always eager to learn.

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Ahahahahaahahaha, if the US has taken over the job of "world police" then they've done a crap job. The entire purpose of "police" is to bring peace to the area by capturing the "criminals" with little damage as possible. Also, if there were such thing as the "world police" they would policing the WORLD, not just their own country. Ya, there are problems in the middle east but its not the only place. What about the constant violence in the Sudan and the human right issues in China? The US pretty much ignores this because it hasnt really effected them yet well, police arent suppose to ignore parts of their area just because they dont see it as a threat. The US isnt a "world police", its ruled by a bunch of self-centered politicians that dont know when to throw in the towel.

Still - do you see anyone else doing it? Yeah, there's stuff we missed, no doubt there, but we're basically the only real force in the world that can do anything, and it'll continue being that way no matter who is President.
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post Aug 17 2008, 06:59 AM
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eagle we may be the only force that can do anything , but we have to think about our selves.... Alot of the countrys do not like what we are doing and will most likly kill us =D
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post Aug 17 2008, 08:56 PM
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Obama all the way.
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post Aug 18 2008, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(SwintellSoft @ Aug 17 2008, 02:59 AM) *
eagle we may be the only force that can do anything , but we have to think about our selves.... Alot of the countrys do not like what we are doing and will most likly kill us =D

Well, most of the countries in the world get some type of aid from us, so at least we'll have to wait for them to take advantage of that, build up their militaries, and then try to kill us years from now wink.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2008, 05:20 PM
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This is a very good question. I would personally vote for obama, but I do not this he will win. For you people saying that Obama is ahead in the polls. This is only about a couple percent, like 5%. This time in the year during the other election Al Gore was ahead %15 in the polls. McCaine is interested in the Iraq war, which everyone is complaining about, you'd think this would mean less people would vote for him, yet look at Bush, 2 terms, they hated him after the first one, and yet... he was elected again.
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post Aug 18 2008, 07:17 PM
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2 many republicans in the country...
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post Aug 19 2008, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE(Eagle 1 @ Aug 18 2008, 01:13 PM) *
Well, most of the countries in the world get some type of aid from us, so at least we'll have to wait for them to take advantage of that, build up their militaries, and then try to kill us years from now wink.gif laugh.gif


true that brotha... most of the damn weapons the terrorist have we supplied them , either the acuall weapons or the funding lol XD
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post Aug 19 2008, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(aussiemcgr @ Aug 18 2008, 01:17 PM) *
2 many republicans in the country...


Ya. I would have thought they'd all die out by now. wink.gif
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post Aug 22 2008, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(Tom @ Aug 22 2008, 01:07 PM) *
Nothing wrong with Republicans, just because they have some leadership troubles does not mean their values are to be scoffed at. tongue.gif


Haha... ya. laugh.gif
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post Aug 23 2008, 09:43 PM
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Obama has the least experience. I don't really care about who wins and so since I am riding on experience, I voted for McCain.
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post Aug 23 2008, 11:58 PM
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LOL
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/s...o_n_112955.html

Anywho, just because someone has more experience doesnt mean that they are better for the job. Regardless of experience, I cant see McCain doing anything to help the country. If anything, he will build on the giant pile of shit that Bush has made.
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post Aug 25 2008, 08:08 AM
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Obama is going to win. Democrats are sick of republicans. Republicans are sick of republicans. Americans are sick of republicans.

Minimum wages need to be raised. Cost of living where I am compared to minimum wage where I am is unbelievable. It's hard enough to live while I'm making $10 an hour. That's why I'm moving to central-florida next year instead of SW FL where I live now.


Abortions? Isn't america based on "rights" ? It has always been a "right" to have an abortion if one wanted one. It shouldn't change.

I'm not voting though. I can, but I won't. I havn't paid much attention and probably won't. I'll vote in 2012 I guess.
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post Aug 26 2008, 03:01 AM
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I am for abortion.... ppl say "what about god way!" WELL NOT EVERY ONE BELIVES IN "GODS" WAY...... and your right in is america wich is supposed to be free....

and their are also ppl who are like "its living babys..." well their inside the stomache not like their feeling pain..... and its usually done in the very early stages....


ppl will always have their beliefs....stupid ppl >.>
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QUOTE(SwintellSoft @ Aug 25 2008, 11:01 PM) *
and their are also ppl who are like "its living babys..." well their inside the stomache not like their feeling pain..... and its usually done in the very early stages....
ppl will always have their beliefs....stupid ppl >.>


Just because you do not agree with one's belief does not make it 'stupid'. I am pro-life, as I would never want to kill my own child. With that said, my position on abortion has no effect on who I am voting for. Pro-life candidates do not make much of a difference anyhow. I would rather judge the candidates based on their other positions and history.
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I'm moving to central-florida next year instead of SW FL where I live now.


Just so you know, central Florida isnt that great. I live in a little town called Winter Springs a few miles north of Orlando. Only up sides I've found to central Florida compared to the other regions is that we dont hit as badly by hurricanes.



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Just because you do not agree with one's belief does not make it 'stupid'. I am pro-life, as I would never want to kill my own child. With that said, my position on abortion has no effect on who I am voting for. Pro-life candidates do not make much of a difference anyhow. I would rather judge the candidates based on their other positions and history.


The idea of a candidate wanting to change the rules so its all pro-life is just dumb as it is. I mean if it stays as a pro-choice country, there is nothing forcing anyone into having abortions. There is nothing forcing you to "kill your own child" because you have the right to choose. I'm glad that your choice isnt made based on abortion position.
Having a child is a big change in someone's life, why should anyone have the ability to force people to make that change even if they arent ready, financially or physically. I'm not saying I'm against children or anything, my sister is giving birth in December and frankly cant wait to be an uncle. My sis didnt get an abortion, not because shes pro-life but because she felt like it was a point in her life where she could afford to make such a dramatic change. But what about those people who arent ready or fit to have the responsibility that comes with having children? Should they be forced to have that responsibility, despite the damage it could do to their life, the child's life, or their relationship with their partner?
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post Aug 26 2008, 07:23 PM
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Just so you know, central Florida isnt that great. I live in a little town called Winter Springs a few miles north of Orlando. Only up sides I've found to central Florida compared to the other regions is that we dont hit as badly by hurricanes.


Actually.. When I can move just outisde of kissimmee or orlando and get a 1 bedroom apartment for less than 600 per month(depending, obviously), compared to 800+ a month where I live now then it is alot better smile.gif

That's not the only reason I'm moving up there though. Have a job lined up for me making 13.8 an hour (compared to my 10 an hour now) and will be staying w/ my bf's cousins for 300/month until we go and get our own place.

So essentially I'll have over 900 dollars a month (after rent and spending money) to save and blow. smile.gif

But honestly.. I live in a retirement town right now. It's wayyyy too expensive to live here. You either have to be rich or poor to find a place to live. You can't be in the middle.
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The living prices can be generous if you know where to look. Also, if you've never been to Orlando during Halloween, go around that time in October, lot of fun. Same goes for Universal, Central Florida is a fun place to be in October, rest of the year its boring.
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