The Death Penalty, Is the Death Penalty inhumane?

[Paranoid]

In my opinion, the Death Penalty shouldn't be outlawed. Criminals should not rot away in our prisons for eternity, if they committed a severe crime.
If they murdered somebody, meaning they took a life..., that person should be prosectuted to the full extent of the law...and be put in consideration for recieving the death penalty.
A couple co-workers of mine dissapprove of this form of punishment, anyways I was curious to see what Zymic thought of it.

[Nexus]

I don't believe in the Death Penalty. Because it proves the country who done it, is a hypocrite. To kill someone because they killed people is hypocritical and doesn't set a very good example.

I also believe rotting in jail is worse than death. But I wouldn't know.

[MrCracker]

I think it should go away.. because if you killed someone.. would you rather be in a high security prison.. maybe even in one of those 2 by 3 rooms your whole life or die.. personally i would die.. so i think people should pay the consequences and live the rest of their pitiful life in prison instead of being put to death and escaping the real torture.

[Paranoid]

/agree with Tom

[XyberForce]

Is this warboards? Just kidding.

I believe in the death penalty. What do you think these rapits, drug dealers, gang members, etc. are going to do after they get out of their 25 year sentence? Go to broadway? Sorry, but you ain't in Kansas anymore. These people are going to come back out of jail and keep doing the same thing they were born and raised to do.

However, I do believe in a second chance. Perhaps after they get busted 2 times and still keep doing what they aren't supposed to be doing, put them in the chair and plug it in. (I think Lethal Injection is not harsh enough)

But hey, everyone has different opinions, that's why the US Constitution has words like "Compromise" and "Bicameral"

Both of which function to keep balance and peace between opposing groups.

If you're doing something utterly stupid and you know what you're doing is wrong, be prepared to accept the consequences. There is no compromise when it comes to crime.

[Paranoid]

/agree with XyberForce

[Nexus]

I wholeheartedly support the death penalty.

Firstly, it is arguable that a life sentence is worse than a death penalty. Death is such an easy way out that even the offenders know that they've gotten off with their crimes (e.g. Ted Bundy), and, for instance, for the crimes of a serial killer, the families and friends of the victims too. So primarily, I support prison as it can be a worthy punishment.

However, for the most severe crimes and for consistent offenders, things reach the stage where it is not worth the taxpayer's money and the government's time to keep someone locked up, and a quick death is preferable so the person can be gone and forgotten about. So long as it is done "humanely" (for some crimes I'd like 48hr torture but that's unlikely in the current socio-political climate ) I fail to see the problem.
Haha, I love people who say this. Punishment is about punishment - hypocrisy is a moot point. It's a boot for a boot, not an eye for an eye. It would only be hypocrisy if the people issuing the sentence said they were against the penalty. Let me put things into perspective for you: for a man who keeps a woman locked up, say as a sex slave, surely then putting him in prison against his will would be hypocrisy, yes? According to your logic, anyway... as you said, a life sentence is probably worse than death anyway, so what's the problem?

The whole justice system is hypocritical. However, it is a neccessary evil I suppose. Also, most of the time, when a death penalty is carried out, it's not because of fucking justice, it's to appease the people who want to see the criminal die.

[Paranoid]

The whole justice system is hypocritical. However, it is a neccessary evil I suppose. Also, most of the time, when a death penalty is carried out, it's not because of fucking justice, it's to appease the people who want to see the criminal die.

Not necessarily,
To most people the Death Penalty means killing the guy, and to forget about him. Not to renew him or forget the crime he committed, but to forget/wipe him from the face of the earth. People do want to see him die, but not for the reasons you were suggesting...not to "appease" the people.

[XyberForce]

Let's take this into account, guys.

Last week(two/three weeks?) a white old man saw two black men trying to rob a house.

"You better stop now, I'm calling the cops"

The robbers ignored him. They went right in and started grabbing everything they could and couldn't find.

So the old man goes in his house and calls the cops.

"There are two people robbing my neighbor's house. I'm going to shoot them."

"No, sir. Please stay put until the cops arrive"

<About 10 minutes later, cops don't arrive>

The old white man gets his shotgun and shoots the two black guys from behind the back.

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Take these things into consideration:

1. The man called the cops
2. The cops didn't arrive after 15 minutes
3. The man told the burglars that he could see them
4. The burglars robbed anyways


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What annoys me most is this: people are trying to raise the "racism" flag on everything they can grab their hands on. For example, if the two burglars were white, nobody would've cared about this case. However , I want to see your opinions. Does this man deserve 10 years in prison, or Lethal Injection?

[Nexus]

10 years in prison. I don't agree in the death penalty and also don't believe black people are the only criminals in the world. I am not black, I am white, but I still believe not all black people are criminal wankers. Just like I believe not all white people are racist pricks.

[Dwayne]

Is it me, or is Zymic turning from a Professional Tutorial site to Liberal 'peace is the way' site?

I fully agree with the death penalty, but, they should die how they killed their victims.

[Paranoid]

Dwayne, Great Point.
You can't preserve death deserving lives, it does not work that way.
Peace is not always an option in the United States and other Countries.

[EMOruffino]

Let's take this into account, guys.

Last week(two/three weeks?) a white old man saw two black men trying to rob a house.

"You better stop now, I'm calling the cops"

The robbers ignored him. They went right in and started grabbing everything they could and couldn't find.

So the old man goes in his house and calls the cops.

"There are two people robbing my neighbor's house. I'm going to shoot them."

"No, sir. Please stay put until the cops arrive"

<About 10 minutes later, cops don't arrive>

The old white man gets his shotgun and shoots the two black guys from behind the back.

2 things wrong with that.....

1. The black guys wouldn't of let that happen

2. The OLD white man has the right to kill them (broke into house, threatened his life etc etc)

I think the death penalty should be used on certain occasions

[Nexus]

Is it me, or is Zymic turning from a Professional Tutorial site to Liberal 'peace is the way' site?

I fully agree with the death penalty, but, they should die how they killed their victims.

Yes, but lets use this example.

Lets say you killed 100 people. And each victim was killed in a different way, each and every time.

How would you die? Who would choose what way you die when 100 possible ways to die are present?

@EMOruffino - You are one sick person. The old white guy had the RIGHT to take the lives of two black men? WRONG. That is the most disgusting and inhuman reply I've ever had the displeasure of reading. That's just fucking sick.

You obviously think blatant theft is worse than murder. Especially of black people. That's common stupidity and racism. The black men in this scenario were but thieves. Nothing more, they did nothing to harm the old white man. The old man however, chose to kill them. For that, he gets 10 years in prison.

You believe what he done was just? No, it wasn't. He rang the police and was told NOT to do anything to the black men. He did it, whether he was thinking rational or not, it doesn't matter. He killed for a stupid reason. He wasn't being robbed, he wasn't being hurt. His neighbor was and he stood up for his neighbor. I applaud that. I DO NOT however, find it right in ANY way, shape or form, to say the old man had the right to kill the two black men.

You are now saying. That if you stole from me or someone I knew, I'd have the right to kill you. Yeah. Would you like that? Fuck no. Put yourself in the victims shoes before passing judgment.

[EMOruffino]

Is it me, or is Zymic turning from a Professional Tutorial site to Liberal 'peace is the way' site?

this is just a category to talk in... lol

[Nexus]

I find it sick because it would make my hypocritical not to. I don't believe in the death penalty, and yet, I believe people have the right to kill someone on your property? Hah! Fuck no.

Know one thing though. I'll never be going to the US any time soon. You shoot fucking people in your fucking yard! I wouldn't be surprised if you done it just because someone was there. I could simply STEP on your yard (as I'm walking by) and BOOM. You'd think you have the right to blow my brains out with a shotgun? Fuck that. It's not worth losing my life over.

I'm all for supporting for anarchy. I despise governments and the justice/punishment systems they run on. But I do NOT believe that someone should be killed/assaulted for simply walking on your property (without permission). I still don't agree with it, but I'd find it much more acceptable if such a person was doing something on your hard. Such as violating your property, or you, or your beliefs, etc.

And the courts shall never accept vigilantes. You know that, I know that. Everyone knows that. Guess what happens if we do? WE get arrested and charged for it. SO FUCK YOU GOVERNMENTS. Seriously though, this probably makes my hypocritical. But meh, whatever. I've said worse.

[Alex]

Who is the "you" in that reply? Tom lives in the UK...

I'm not really sure where I stand, I think I wouldn't be against it for things like repeat offenders of severe crimes - but I'm not overly sure that we should give judges that sort of power over people. It would need some pretty solid limits and clear boundaries over what can even be considered as applicable for that penalty.

[Colin]

I think the death penalty is good in some cases...Like if someone kills someone, premeditated then yes...he deserves to die (as much as I would rather him go to prison and get violated, beaten and then killed eventually) He does not deserve to breath...For cases like a drunken bar brawl got out of hand I think that would be a proper case for prisontime...

[EMOruffino]

For cases like a drunken bar brawl got out of hand I think that would be a proper case for prisontime...

true....

[Eon_Dragon]

yea in some ways its ok but.. somethimes it isnt treu or somebody not guilty gets killed by it and thats pretty stupid because it is nor fair.
maybe lifelong emprisoning is better so then sit the rest of their life thinking about what they did, let them smash on rocks like in the movies