Global Warming -- I Believe!, WTF

[weasleysww]

Global warming does not result in the whole world warming up, at first at least. You may have noticed (I'm nt sure if you all watch the news) that the weather has been taking extreme swings lately. In early December here in Missouri the temperature got to 62F around ten o'clock in the morning, and by 3'oclock it was 9F. We also had tornadoes in December, which never happens here (our average December temperature is 34F). Weather Disasters (Wild Fires, Floods, Droughts, Tornadoes, Hurricanes, etc.) have been larger in numbers in recent years, as well as stronger. The 2005 Hurricane season for example, which by the end of we were naming hurricanes by the greek alphabet and the gulf coast seemed more like a wasteland than anything, was the busiest and longest we've ever had. Florida will have to wait a while for it's global warming, the effects will, and already have, started the poles, and creep toward the equator. Now, note that global warming is a natural process, but this time you have to throw the human element into the equation, and our tendency to ignore technological advances and burn just about anything that makes a thick black smoke for fuel, which of course when you burn fossil fuels, which are made up primarily of carbon, the carbon atoms combine with the oxygen ones in the air, making good old CO2. With carbon emissions on the scale the balance is tipped. We are going to experience a stronger than usual global warming period, followed by, the other side of the cycle, a stronger than usual Ice Age. The combination of these two very well could test humanity to it's breaking point, that being if we even make it to 2013 (Maya Calender End and Nostradamus Prediction).

-JC

[Cmain]

that being if we even make it to 2013 (Maya Calender End and Nostradamus Prediction).

Pff...

[weasleysww]

Pff...

Just had to throw that in for all the superstitious people.

[aussiemcgr]

I think Futurama has the best explanation to global warming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqPjxsAuUxk

[Jenie]

global warming is getting serious and we should really
act fast about it...

[aussiemcgr]

global warming is getting serious and we should really
act fast about it...

apparently, if we just drop giant ice cubes into the water every now and then, the problem is solved forever.

[Cmain]

apparently, if we just drop giant ice cubes into the water every now and then, the problem is solved forever.

Yeah...........................

[Dave Reckoning]

global warming is getting serious and we should really
act fast about it...

Yes, we should act fast, because we are now entering the next cycle of global cooling, and it's going to be much harder to convince folks that the globe is warming when they are freezing to death.

I still remember when I was going to school in the late 1950's, the big media panic of the day was the coming Ice Age. Fact. And as late as the 1970's, the media moguls were all worried about something they called nuclear winter. Now it's global warming they are worried about.

The serious scientists (the ones more concerned with truth than they are with getting government grants or media publicity) tell us that nature works in cycles, that periodic warming and cooling of the planet is a natural phenomenon caused by the cyclic warming and cooling of the Sun. Look, the polar ice cap of the planet Mars has been shrinking during the same time that earth was in a warming trend. Did CO2 emissions from automobiles cause that? Humanity isn't big enough to change weather patterns globally.

I was highly amused by the report of the eco-freaks who went on a tour of the Northern sea in the Arctic regions to get a last look at the polar ice cap, and got iced in. An icebreaker vessel had to be brought in to rescue them. It's a fact that green plants (on which all other earthly life depends) thrive on CO2 and global warming, and that the earth was once much warmer than it is now. Greenland, for instance, was once green! If it were possible for Mankind to cause global warming, I would be advocating it. Those who are in a panic over GW are being used as unwitting pawns of a budding dictatorship that wants to use this as an excuse to seize control over all human activity on earth.

Nature RUNS IN CYCLES, and the earth will keep spinning as it always has.

[aussiemcgr]

Ok, but lets look at the statistics over the past 50 years. In about 1950, Carbon Emissions increased substantially, at the same time, the overall Global Temperature increased just as substantially. As the Global Temperatures increases, the ocean temperatures increases. When the ocean temperatures increase, the polar ice caps begin to melt. When the polar ice caps melt, it dumps a significant amount of Freshwater into the Saltwater oceans. Now, the currents throughout the oceans rely on a particular balance of Freshwater and Saltwater. When more Freshwater gets dumped into the ocean, the Ocean Currents begin to break down. Additionally to the Ocean Currents changing, the overall water levels increase.

Now you say the Earth works in cycles, which are not influenced by Humanity. The different scares over time are still relevant. Those fears have not gone away. The next Ice Age, the Nuclear Winter, and whatever else there was, are all theories of what might happen as a result of Global Warming taking effect. We just now have a name for it.

As for the melting caps on Mars. That is because even Mars has seasons. The chemical make ups between Earth and Mars are too different to compare the results of the seasons. No, this is not a human thing. This is a natural occurrence on MARS, but Mars and Earth are not the same planets. What happens on one planet doesnt mean the same will happen on another.

[coolman010]

Global warming has become a real serious issue these days...we all have to unite together to fight against this global warming...Please try to use renewable sources of energy as much as possible!!!

[rojerbinny3132]

Every one should takes some steps to prevent the global warming..its a mandatory...

[Dave Reckoning]

Ok, but lets look at the statistics over the past 50 years. In about 1950, Carbon Emissions increased substantially, at the same time, the overall Global Temperature increased just as substantially. As the Global Temperatures increases, the ocean temperatures increases. When the ocean temperatures increase, the polar ice caps begin to melt. When the polar ice caps melt, it dumps a significant amount of Freshwater into the Saltwater oceans. Now, the currents throughout the oceans rely on a particular balance of Freshwater and Saltwater. When more Freshwater gets dumped into the ocean, the Ocean Currents begin to break down. Additionally to the Ocean Currents changing, the overall water levels increase.

Now you say the Earth works in cycles, which are not influenced by Humanity. The different scares over time are still relevant. Those fears have not gone away. The next Ice Age, the Nuclear Winter, and whatever else there was, are all theories of what might happen as a result of Global Warming taking effect. We just now have a name for it.

As for the melting caps on Mars. That is because even Mars has seasons. The chemical make ups between Earth and Mars are too different to compare the results of the seasons. No, this is not a human thing. This is a natural occurrence on MARS, but Mars and Earth are not the same planets. What happens on one planet doesnt mean the same will happen on another.

"The statistics"... whose? The numbers gathered by pop-scientists who plot 2 or 3 lines on one small part of an oscillating curve that covers a few years, or the ones gathered by the real scientists who step back and look at the WHOLE picture, who gather ALL the available facts, not just the ones that conform to political correctness and therefore bring in juicy monetary grants and prestige from those who want excuses for seizing political power.

Man does influence climate locally. For instance, in places where large tracts of land are held in common, as in socialism or nomadic cultures, overgrazing takes place, because no one is responsible for good stewardship. Overgrazing causes warm updrafts that tend to drive rain clouds away, leading to desert formation. Land held privately tends to be better-cared-for, as people tend to take care of what they own. But the rain clouds don't just cease to exist. They move to where atmospheric conditions allow the rain to fall. If one part of the world gets hot and dry, another part will get cold and wet, to compensate. Overall, the mean global temperature is more affected by the temperature of the sun (which fluctuates in cycles, and cycles-within-cycles) than by activities of man. During the 80's and 90's, the sun was in a warming cycle. Now it has entered a cooling cycle.

As for Mars, yes, I know about the seasons. Over the solar warming period, its polar ice cap was shrinking OVERALL, during a span of many Martian years.. The sun, unlike Man, affects ALL the planets. including Mars.

As for the polar ice caps on earth, it seems that they are rebounding again. Since water expands as it freezes, ice floats. Some alarmists have worried that melting the ice cap will raise the level of the oceans. Try putting an ice cube in a glass of water, and mark the level of the water. Wait for the ice cube to melt. How much does the water level rise? Answer: ZERO. because the volume of the water shrinks as the ice melts.

I repeat: global warming is a hoax designed to panic people into giving up their freedom.

[David89]

I too belive about Global Warming
Obviously, there is something weird going on, seeing how it is in the mid 80s halfway through winter...

[sassy]

Global Warming is the increase of earth's temperature. And it really affects our environment. So better do something to prevent it.

[aussiemcgr]

Interestingly enough, its been raining almost non-stop in Central Florida since May 18th... Not even Hurricane season yet. If we are getting this sort of weather now, I cant imagine how "fun" hurricane season will be...

[TradeYourAsset]

In some tropical areas, they're actually experiencing weird seasons that only middle countries could experienced, just like hale storm. I could say global warming attributes to this weird climate.

[aussiemcgr]

a show on Discovery Channel said we should be seeing massive effects from the ice caps by 2013...

[ArticleMaster]

After Going through the whole thread and conversations only one question pop up in mind....
Everybody is telling we have to do something and have to act but just wanna ask who is taking what measures to stop this global warming??

[sweetbride202]

We can prevent global warming if we know how to make use of or environment and we know how to conserve electricity.
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[farhome]

yesterday for the first time in my in last 22 years. the temp gone to 53C, i can see global warming. if this thing keep going maybe in next few years. we could face 55-60C i'm afraid.