Mccain Or Obama?

[aussiemcgr]

And......GO!

[Eagle 1]

His idea for Iraq is to pull out and send our guys back if the situation goes bad. That's a death sentence for a lot more troops down the road.

Hopefully if things continue as they are now in Iraq, if Obama does get into office, we'll have brought the Iraqi military and government to the position where they can defend themselves and we'll come out ok anyway.

McCain's plan is simple - reduce troop levels based on conditions on the ground. The way things are going now that could be pretty soon anyway. McCain knows national security - he knows what it means to serve, to sacrifice, and when to seek help on any issues he may not be strong on. McCain said a while back he was better at national security than the economy, but he's learned a lot since then. Besides, exactly what's good about Obama's economic plans?

And on McCain's issue with being "Bush III" - he's made decisions based on what he's believed would do the country the most good. Whether or not they happen to coincide with what Bush did too shouldn't matter if it helped the country and our military. Bush ordered the surge and McCain was one of the original supports of the new plan - that new plan has basically won us Iraq now.

[Sean223]

@aussiemcgr

Thanks for the links. They really strenghthen my arguement.

@Eagle 1

Bush's idea was to lie, go in, and kill people (on both sides).

Last January, Iraq leaders met together and only agreed on one thing. Take a wild guess at what that was. That they wanted Americans out. Guess what Bush said. Oh, they are finally agreeing on something. This shows that it is working and we should stay!

Bush's approval rating is retardedly low. So if McCain's ideas "happen to coincide with what Bush did" shouldn't 70% of the country hate him too? This just shows you people do not know what is going on and can't think for themselves. They'd rather listen to oil companies, church leaders (not all are good you know), and Fox news.

It's not like this is World War II. This is Bush's stupid thing that he lied about and blew way out of porportion. If we pull out (effectively, but very quickly) it's not like the Nazi's will take over the world. If we wouldn't have went in in the first place we wouldn't have this problem anyway. Bush just can't admit his mistakes (and his lies).

How many hundreds of people died in 9/11? And how many hundreds of thousands of people have died in this war? How many lives are equal to one American life? If you ask me, Americans are selfish, stubborn, and lazy. We need to start thinking of others as equals and look at the world in a twenty-first century way. No matter how much the Republicans try to say that the world isn't and shouldn't be changing, it is. I hate change in my personal life. It's understandable. But denying it like this on a world level is rediculous.

And if you're going to blame Obama for one specific incident, I could think of dozens of incidents of Bush's idiocy. Like Bush's response to 9/11 for instance (reading to the children). If you haven't seen that tape, I'd look it up! It's very entertaining.