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 Nov 6 2007, 04:00 PM
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Super Duper Ninja  Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 22-September 07 From: Qatar Member No.: 427  |
& why?
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Nov 6 2007, 04:56 PM
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 Cool guy Group: Moderators Posts: 193 Joined: 27-May 07 From: N.Ireland Member No.: 10 |
YESSS!
Because it's only a plant! |
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Nov 6 2007, 05:00 PM
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 Marvellous Ninja Group: Members Posts: 537 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Kansas =\ Member No.: 48 |
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Nov 6 2007, 06:53 PM
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 Outrageously Uber Ninja Group: Members Posts: 1,196 Joined: 19-September 07 Member No.: 234 |
No why ? :
this is simple stuff, some people consume it and some others sale it... some does both, in my french economy class we call that underground business  .Leglizing marijuana will kill this underground business.. because the "dealers" will at first not be the only ones in the community to sale these type of stuff, wich means probably big companies will take over their business... really really bad stuff because : if you take away the deal of the ones that sales... than what are they gonna do ? we need to look at the consenquences (sorry for spelling errors.. im still a french dude ) some people might say, hey if we take away there business and raise the prices than they not gonna smoke anymore... and some my say : QUOTE YESSS! Because it's only a plant! well it is a plant, doesnt do much harm.. just makes you feel right never tryed my self, i only drink... but the thing is... how are these dealers going to make money if we take out their MAIN business ?in france, this underground business is HUGE, many people sale, many people buy... taking that away will push these dealers to sale other stuff... what comes after Marijuana ? Cocaïn !! yes it is, at least in france. Now think of it... whats worse ? : having people sale Marijuana... or have them sale Cocain... that once cocain going to do the effect we are going to be like.. hey lets just legalize that aswell... and sale LSD or Extasy, or varients of that... I personaly think its already shity like this, allowing these kinda of stuff will 1 kill underground economy... where some people might make some money out of it and get out of some little shits, 2 will push dealers to go sale cocain and that gonna be really bad to see. but its just an opinion :/ ..... |
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Nov 6 2007, 07:10 PM
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Outrageously Uber Ninja Group: Members Posts: 1,196 Joined: 19-September 07 Member No.: 234 |
QUOTE Sitting on the fence for this one, but as I said it should be considered as a relatively minor crime in *most* circumstances (not dealing, nor other more degenerate scenarios more commonly associated with harder drugs) and, to be honest, viewed in a similar manner to alcohol. that agreed. What i hope re-searchers will not use the The Netherlands as an examples... i think mentalities are a way to different, and they are really different in all the countries, same as alcohol, for that just look at statistics. |
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Nov 9 2007, 11:05 PM
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Ninja Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 19-September 07 Member No.: 126 |
Even it was legal, I wouldn't smoke it, and neither do my friends.
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Nov 10 2007, 03:14 PM
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Marvellous Ninja Group: Members Posts: 537 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Kansas =\ Member No.: 48 |
If they made it legal it would help the crime rate go down...I am sure it will happen in time, Beer used to be illegal in usa for a period of time, look at it now
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Nov 11 2007, 08:39 AM
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 they call me ruffi Group: Moderators Posts: 1,651 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Hell Paso Member No.: 245 |
beer was only illegal for a small amount of time..... (like taking away beer was going to stop domestic disputes, HA!)
anyways, so what? it makes you hungry, it makes you happy and it helps you concentrate. emmmmmmm........ concentrate! |
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Nov 12 2007, 05:01 AM
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 Newbie Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 9-November 07 From: PJ, Malaysia Member No.: 2,571 |
Funny enough, this topic reminds me of a marijuana incident happened sometime ago around here. It totally illegal to grow the plant here and anybody with a flowerpot's worth gets prosecuted. Apparently leaves of the stuff were sprouting up everywhere like weeds in a newly constructed prison. It was the prisoners told the guards and they themselves identified the plant. Big news, everybody from local enforcement to prison health care played the "Oops-I-didn't-know-that!" blame game.
Such helpful prisoners, though. Must have been a really minimum security prison... 
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Nov 16 2007, 03:35 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 14-November 07 From: Michigan, USA Member No.: 2,867 |
All drugs should be legal and unregulated. I don't like the idea of the Federal Government using tax dollars to chase around (and pay to imprison and feed) crackheads, while the real criminals are still on the loose. (Child molesters, murderers, rapists, etc.)
All violence caused by drugs is a result of the current black market for them. Just like with prohibition, drug laws create a black market that is not subject to regulation via the consumer like a free market would be. |
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Nov 16 2007, 10:01 PM
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 Outrageously Uber Ninja Group: Moderators Posts: 1,102 Joined: 2-June 07 From: United States Member No.: 14 |
Marijuana should at least be made legal for medical purposes. I do not see why they can give Oxycontin to people but not Marijuana
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Nov 17 2007, 11:12 AM
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 Super Ninja Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 25-August 07 From: Berlin, NJ Member No.: 19 |
QUOTE(MrTouz @ Nov 6 2007, 01:53 PM)  No why ? : Wow, your logic is so flawed I don't know where to begin. Underground business? You mean organized crime? These people aren't paying taxes on their "underground business" either. With "underground business" comes weapons, violence, and tons of illegal activity. People involved in "underground business" cannot involve the police in any disputes, so they are forced to solve their disputes through violence, blackmail, extortion, and other means. Where will these dealers go? How about getting an HONEST job! If marijuana was legal, a legitimate marijuana economy would emerge anyway.this is simple stuff, some people consume it and some others sale it... some does both, in my french economy class we call that underground business .Leglizing marijuana will kill this underground business.. because the "dealers" will at first not be the only ones in the community to sale these type of stuff, wich means probably big companies will take over their business... really really bad stuff because : if you take away the deal of the ones that sales... than what are they gonna do ? we need to look at the consenquences (sorry for spelling errors.. im still a french dude ) some people might say, hey if we take away there business and raise the prices than they not gonna smoke anymore... and some my say : well it is a plant, doesnt do much harm.. just makes you feel right never tryed my self, i only drink... but the thing is... how are these dealers going to make money if we take out their MAIN business ?in france, this underground business is HUGE, many people sale, many people buy... taking that away will push these dealers to sale other stuff... what comes after Marijuana ? Cocaïn !! yes it is, at least in france. Now think of it... whats worse ? : having people sale Marijuana... or have them sale Cocain... that once cocain going to do the effect we are going to be like.. hey lets just legalize that aswell... and sale LSD or Extasy, or varients of that... I personaly think its already shity like this, allowing these kinda of stuff will 1 kill underground economy... where some people might make some money out of it and get out of some little shits, 2 will push dealers to go sale cocain and that gonna be really bad to see. but its just an opinion :/ ..... To encourage people making a living as drug dealers is like encouraging people who are professional hitmen. They are both making their living dishonestly, and hurting the economy/general welfare of an area. Underground business hurts legitimate businesses who have to pay taxes and settle their disputes legally. |
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Nov 19 2007, 11:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 19-September 07 Member No.: 250 |
QUOTE(Balden @ Nov 16 2007, 08:35 AM) All drugs should be legal and unregulated. I don't like the idea of the Federal Government using tax dollars to chase around (and pay to imprison and feed) crackheads, while the real criminals are still on the loose. (Child molesters, murderers, rapists, etc.) All violence caused by drugs is a result of the current black market for them. Just like with prohibition, drug laws create a black market that is not subject to regulation via the consumer like a free market would be. You think heroin and cocaine should be legal? |
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Nov 21 2007, 07:26 PM
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Outrageously Uber Ninja Group: Members Posts: 1,196 Joined: 19-September 07 Member No.: 234 |
QUOTE Wow, your logic is so flawed I don't know where to begin. Underground business? You mean organized crime? These people aren't paying taxes on their "underground business" either. With "underground business" comes weapons, violence, and tons of illegal activity. People involved in "underground business" cannot involve the police in any disputes, so they are forced to solve their disputes through violence, blackmail, extortion, and other means. Where will these dealers go? How about getting an HONEST job! If marijuana was legal, a legitimate marijuana economy would emerge anyway. i am not saying what they are doing is correct. I am totally against this underground business, the thing is some people i know, well most of them... sadly sale drugs... and sale weed... and listening to them.. they are definitely morons... but they have no choice. Its to easy to say hey get a job... i got one ok... most of my friends don't... not that they don't want to.. but most likely because they don't find a job. its hard. You saying my logic is flawed is wrong - yours is actualy even more flawed than mine. "they could just get jobs" Now we actualy dont care if they have a job or not - things to know : Where they live makes them easy to have these drugs Who they hang with makes them easy to have these drugs - easy to sale these drugs People around them don't help much even tho they should start by helping themselves. My point : Legalize marijuana and these people are not going to have anything to sale - its obvious : QUOTE Beer used to be illegal in usa for a period of time, look at it now and remember the illegal sales ? yes you do because you use to buy some  no joking, but you still do...Now what happened to people who sold the illegals merchandises ? well they got fucked coz they were not making any money anymore since government took control of it. same for marijuana... legalize it and these people are going to need something else to sale : QUOTE If they made it legal it would help the crime rate go down this is totally wrong... it'll increase the amount of people stealing - increase violence - increase many bad things and the best one of it is an other way to make money... sale an other type of DRUG ! such as cocain lsd ... and the lists goes on and on and on... Legalize that shit and itll make it worse. Best thing to do is try to find the sources and stop them. |
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Nov 22 2007, 01:01 AM
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 Administrator Group: Root Admin Posts: 168 Joined: 30-January 07 Member No.: 1 |
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Dec 2 2007, 08:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 29-November 07 Member No.: 3,713 |
Why on earth would you want it to be made Legal?!?! It's a drug and can kill people. That's why I say that it definately should NOT be made legal.
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Dec 2 2007, 08:57 PM
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they call me ruffi Group: Moderators Posts: 1,651 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Hell Paso Member No.: 245 |
QUOTE(Frozen Lemonade @ Dec 2 2007, 02:33 PM) Why on earth would you want it to be made Legal?!?! It's a drug and can kill people. That's why I say that it definately should NOT be made legal. DRUGS DONT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL DRUGS MJ is 100x safer then smoking a cig... |
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Dec 2 2007, 09:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 29-November 07 Member No.: 3,713 |
If people overdose on drugs, they do kill people. So drugs do kill people, and smoking is a drug also.
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Dec 2 2007, 09:43 PM
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they call me ruffi Group: Moderators Posts: 1,651 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Hell Paso Member No.: 245 |
QUOTE(Frozen Lemonade @ Dec 2 2007, 03:12 PM) If people overdose on drugs, they do kill people. So drugs do kill people, and smoking is a drug also. actually when the person dies the drug dies with them..... |
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Dec 2 2007, 10:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 29-November 07 Member No.: 3,713 |
QUOTE(EMOruffino @ Dec 2 2007, 09:43 PM) actually when the person dies the drug dies with them..... ??? 
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