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Religion, o god? |
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Dec 7 2007, 12:41 PM
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![]() they call me ruffi ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,651 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Hell Paso Member No.: 245 |
I was raised on a Native American reservation, so i believe in nature.
I used to go to church, but i believe i don't have to go to church to pray... |
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Dec 7 2007, 02:04 PM
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![]() Super Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 19-September 07 From: New Zealand Member No.: 110 |
I personally, do not believe in any religion. I used to go to Church, when I was questioning my faith. I won't be the only one. I have no regrets of that. However, religion is now for me. For several reasons. I could be considered an Atheist, but only to an extent. I believe in certain spiritual beings which would make me more part-Atheist. My beliefs are:
I do not believe their to be a God, if in fact, there is a God. If there is a "God" I believe there not to be one, but there to be many. Such as the beliefs of Ancient (and Modern) Greek and Egypt. I do not believe in a Heaven or a Hell. If such places do exist, I do not believe them to be run by one superior beings. But rather, many beings or none at all. In my eyes, Hell should be place where the "evil" people run free to do whatever the fuck they like. That's punishment enough. If demons and the like exist, even better! If Heaven exists, all "good" people would already know what to do and what not to do. I do not believe in God due to false hope. I believe Christians cling onto God like a bad smell. It gives them a sense of hope that I do not believe to be healthy. A sense of denial, if you will. I believe Christians are afraid of what death lies. Death is death, it is the end. Only the dead know if such a place lies after it. And it should stay that way. Christians have no right pleading about their beliefs. I don't about mine. I do not believe in God because s/he is a hypocrite and contradictive. The Bible is meant to be a book which is to be read by humanity so that they can find out what to do to be allowed passage into "Heaven." The Bible is fucking cryptic. And half the crap in it no one can fucking understand. 14 words is all it needs - Don't fuck with God. You don't fuck with me, I let you into Heaven. Or it just needs to be the Decalogue (10 Commandments). It states clear as fuck in the Bible that God himself created everything. Earth, the Planets, the Universe. Everything. So my question is. Who created God? A popular question asked by Atheists and yet, Christians can never answer it. Ever. It also states God created us in his image and we were meant to be the perfect beings. Well, God must fucking suck because humanity is a fucked up race. HUMANS are the blight upon nature. The worst disease you can ever have is to be a human. That's my philosophy. If we were made to be perfect, how come we are not? It also states God is all-knowing and all-powerful. If so, wouldn't he have known that humanity would not have been perfect? And if he had, why would he continue to create us only to be surprised by the fact that we were not perfect? That's not possible. My religion is this website. I believe everything on it, and everything on it can be proven by looking into your precious Bible. |
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Dec 7 2007, 02:55 PM
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zIRC Network Admin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrators Posts: 660 Joined: 10-March 07 From: Swindon, Wilts, UK Member No.: 6 |
Fixed the topic title.
Personally, I'm agnostic, I have yet to find a religion I think makes any sense to me, and personally I don't think it would really be possible for mankind to posit a divine being or beings with any accuracy at all - so the entire exercise is outdated and pointless to my mind. That's not to say I believe there can't be any higher being, the possibility exists - though I think not in the ways we've guessed. Basically, I'm sitting on the fence, and don't think there's really anything which would convince me one way or the other - because I'm naturally critical of most things. |
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Dec 7 2007, 04:10 PM
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![]() Super Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 19-September 07 From: New Zealand Member No.: 110 |
You, are the classic example of any good Agnostic.
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Dec 8 2007, 05:21 AM
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Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 19-September 07 Member No.: 126 |
I question faith, but, when I go to church, I end up going to sleep.
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Dec 8 2007, 12:57 PM
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![]() Super Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 19-September 07 From: New Zealand Member No.: 110 |
I was raised as a Christian (luckily breaking free from its chains relatively early on) and it distorted my mind, so now I find it difficult to become fully atheist. All religions are human attempts to connect with God, and as a result are incorrect (and can generally be as close to disproved as is physically possible on a historical basis). I am sort of like this, but only to an extent. I was never raised as a Christian. But I was told a lot about Christian ways and some of my friends were Christians and/or believed in Christianities God or another religions God(s). I myself, like I said, went to Church. I questioned my faith, I went to Sunday School. It bored me. The people there, were too... strict. You couldn't say one thing without someone implying it was a sin. Everything is a goddamn sin to these fucking people. And, they wonder why people go insane over Christianity. I'm honestly not surprised. I hate what Christians believe in, but I do not despise the Christian themselves. In saying that, there are a few type of Christians I do despise. I have a hatred for them and they disgust me to the very bone. These people state they're Christian, but in truth, act nothing like a true Christian is supposed to. I have encountered many, many "Christians" who like to make fun of my for my Atheistic view. They also like to point out that I'm going to Hell and insult me because of my beliefs. These people aren't what I was told a Christian is. These people are wankers. Assholes, bastards. They're fuckers. I have no sympathy for any of those people. What sickens me about them, is that I choose to accept their beliefs. Yet I'm an Atheist. However, they choose to mock mine. Well fuck them. This has lead to my fucked up view on Christianity. I assume most Christians a like this. Why? Because most have treated me like shit, mocked my views and beliefs, and like to beat the dog when he's down. It's not just me they go against. It's the world. What about those "Christians" who teach their children pure racism. Saying that black people or homosexual/lesbian people aren't "normal?" That is just sick and wrong. I may be an Atheist, but if my children were ever to believe in Christianity or some othere religion. Then I say go for it. As long as you don't mock me for my own beliefs, we have no problem. |
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Dec 8 2007, 04:11 PM
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![]() they call me ruffi ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,651 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Hell Paso Member No.: 245 |
Mostly everyone has gone to church once in their life (forced
I remember when i was young i used to have to go with my grandfather... The only reason i went was because i got to go out to eat after words.... lol |
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Dec 8 2007, 08:01 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 24-November 07 Member No.: 3,365 |
I follow no particular faith and often wonder if Christians and the like need to believe so that they don't feel so lost and alone in the big, seemingly empty, universe.
As for the Bible... well, I came across an ebook once that was titled '101 contradictions in the Bible' 1.Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (A.) God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) (B.) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) 2.In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? (A.) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (B.) One million, one hundred thousand (IChronicles 21:5) 3. How many fighting men were found in Judah? (A.) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) (B.) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 4.God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? (A.) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) (B.) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) 5.How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (A.) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) (B.) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) 6.How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (A.) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8) (B.) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) 7.How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (A.) Three months (2 Kings 24:8) (B.) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) 8.The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time? (A.) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8) (B.) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11) 9.When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after? (A.) After (2 Samuel 5 and 6) (B.) Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14) 10.How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark? (A.) Two (Genesis 6:19, 20) (B.) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9) ------------------- Not being in possesion of a Bible I'm unable to verify any of this, and TBH I can't be ass to waste my time doing so. What I DO believe though, is the ride of life is what you make it and you only get one go, So don't Fuck it up! |
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Dec 9 2007, 02:02 AM
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![]() Super Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 19-September 07 From: New Zealand Member No.: 110 |
http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradictions.htm
I have looked at Bibles for proof of these. And they are, in fact, real contradictions. Proving the Bible is bullshit. |
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Dec 9 2007, 02:39 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 54 Joined: 19-September 07 Member No.: 250 |
I wouldn't say that they are all contradictions... The bible is pretty much a collection of stories from thousands of years ago, so of course there are going to be some differences between two people's accounts of something.
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Dec 9 2007, 05:06 AM
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![]() Super Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 19-September 07 From: New Zealand Member No.: 110 |
Yes... maybe so. But it proves that they just added a whole lot of shit in it without reading it over to look for errors such as these. Besides, the bible is meant to be Gods way of informing us how not to go to Hell, it's so fucking cryptic though that you casn't understand a word of it.
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Dec 9 2007, 11:48 PM
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![]() Marvellous Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 537 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Kansas =\ Member No.: 48 |
QUOTE It states clear as fuck in the Bible that God himself created everything. Earth, the Planets, the Universe. Everything. So my question is. Who created God? A popular question asked by Atheists and yet, Christians can never answer it. Ever. It also states God created us in his image and we were meant to be the perfect beings. There are always questions, There are many more questions that Atheists can't explain then Questions that the Holy Bible can't... |
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Jan 7 2008, 04:52 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 22-December 07 From: Munchen Member No.: 5,433 |
I have no religion. Nothing makes sense to me (ie the Christian god says 'MAGIC IS BAD' if he doesn't have magic, what does he have?)
I like making up my own gods and trying to make them make sense. Greek mythology intrigues me, however. I have never gon to church, unless you count daycare when I was 4 that was in a church. We didn't learn any religious stuff, though. |
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Jan 7 2008, 08:10 PM
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![]() Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: 22-September 07 From: Georgia Member No.: 445 |
Religon is a great thing, really. Okay, maybe not.
In a large context religon can easily be viewed as bad, but my local community church has done nothing but help me out and support me when I needed it. I think religon is great when its not a business. |
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Jan 8 2008, 06:10 AM
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![]() they call me ruffi ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderators Posts: 1,651 Joined: 19-September 07 From: Hell Paso Member No.: 245 |
i went to this church the other day, and its not what you'd expect a church to be. It was a skate comp, and it was actually not bad... XD
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Jan 9 2008, 12:40 PM
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![]() Super Duper Ninja ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 453 Joined: 20-September 07 From: Houston, TX Member No.: 290 |
Religions gave nothing to mankind but separatio nand division. Think of the Holy Crusades and whatnot. However, I agree with magnus - they give a person a sense of belonging.
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Jan 15 2008, 11:34 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 15-January 08 Member No.: 7,077 |
No idea what i was raised up as, I come from a Iraqi "muslim" family, Reverted to islam few years back.
Nexus QUOTE I do not believe their to be a God, if in fact, there is a God. If there is a "God" I believe there not to be one, but there to be many. Such as the beliefs of Ancient (and Modern) Greek and Egypt. Caught my attention, Any particlar reason for this belief? |
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Jan 18 2008, 04:29 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 19-September 07 From: UK Member No.: 130 |
Personally I'm not a religious or spiritual person. I have been brought up around the christian faith though from a young age never really excepted it.
I've been to church numerous times but never was interested in it. I have gone through points where Hinduism had interested me. Though I don't believe in "God" or anything like that all. PersonallyI have no problem with religion until people start forcing their beliefs upon me. |
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Feb 2 2008, 06:02 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 5-January 08 From: jordan Member No.: 6,216 |
I'm a Muslim, but I'm not too religious I don't pray for example
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Feb 3 2008, 01:47 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 5-January 08 From: jordan Member No.: 6,216 |
That's strange, considering your religion adamantly requires that you pray... that's true but why is it strange?? I think that there is a very very big misunderstanding of Islam nowadays, and this makes me feel sick because It's something great but people just don't know anything about it. |
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