Visual Basic, Anyone use it here?

[Alex]

Easier does not mean better for people to learn, and I expect that's what most people here would be doing (bar a few). In fact, in this case, it makes VB one of the worst languages around for novices because it allows poor code to compile and run. A stricter language forces you to learn properly, and thus there is no good reason to choose VB over these "more difficult" languages except simple laziness.

You can still make GUI applications with good beginner languages like python using the Qt or GTK bindings (I lean towards the former: pyQt), so in most cases I think you'll find python/pyQt to be capable of anything VB can do, except you'll end up with a better grounding in programming in general and the application you build will be cross-platform by design (VB on the other hand is not).

I'm finding it hard to think of worse choices over here.

[Autistic Elephan...]

I pray daily that some day new programmers at my High School will start with Python instead of VB. (Or Java, for that matter)
When I look at my friends' code, I sometimes have to spray glue in my eyes so I don't have to think about how they ever got such horrible coding habits.

I'm not a big fan of Visual Basic.

[xTremeMS]

i first started off learning c++ then i moved on to c# then after learning those 2 i learned visual basic and delphi together. and then to assembly (asm). with experience to all 5 programming languages i suggest learning c# because it is the basically the easiest to start of with. then to c++ and then w/e you want. i find visual basic not as good as other languages cause of its simplicity, probally why they call it visual ==>BASIC<==

[maxrpg]

i tried visual basic but i personally didnt find it good enough to do the type of project i wanted to do so moved over to C#(sharp) which i find much easier to use and did exactly what i needed it to do.

im currently programming an instant messenger program entirely in C# with your basic text chat..webcams..emoticons..file transfer and even voip which has all been made doable using C# currently have slightly over 300 people testing it out rite now so yeah its a good language and i myself only took up programming about 7 months ago so im a newb aswell lol

guess it depends what type of project your wanting to do but deffinately use something other than visual basic

[Banjo]

You could make that in visual basic as well, you just need to know your stuff.

[Midknight]

I've tried visual basic, but found it confusing starting off, so I didnt get much further at it. I might give it another shot one day.

[Illuminati]

I have made several applications on VB and if what you want is a quick n' dirty fix for an issue, then VB might be good at it, but besides that to actually write full applications I think that other programming languages are better. I started programming in PHP and when I moved over to other languages for the first time I realized how poor code it lets your write. PHP and VB are easy to learn but just as easy to get bad programming habits.

[wozzym]

never even heard of it...

[Banjo]

CODE

never even heard of it...

Quite alot of people use it still. www.vbforums.com and SwiftKit is quite a good program that was made in it.

[the (noob)one xD]

Its true visual basic could be the wrost laguage like some of you were saying but you have some advantages... It's called API's and with VB you can do wherever you want from windows about the chat program someone is talking about I've made one with mail change too just like msn and it only cost me 2 months... and want to know something with VB and API I can do the same things you do with C except visual programing because vb and games aren't that much friends... this is only my opinion and I know that VB is far from being the best languages but it is easy to learn and fast for developing some tools to fix something that we need

bye and sorry for the english... I'm Portuguese

[Tim]

To add my two cents to that argument, Alex I believe its acceptable to start your programing experience with PHP. But this depends solely on where you learn from. Learning PHP from a number of texts has helped me grasp the concepts of many programing paradigms, especially object orientated objective-c (cocoa and carbon). I will also say VisualBasic is a copout, although in appears similar to other languages such as C ect 90% of applications created in VB aren't universal and rely on what library extensions the end user has, such as .net framework.

I condemn VisualBasic, but do believe PHP is a strong language to start with teaching programers the way OOP and procedural languages are structured.

[Alex]

To add my two cents to that argument, Alex I believe its acceptable to start your programing experience with PHP. But this depends solely on where you learn from. Learning PHP from a number of texts has helped me grasp the concepts of many programing paradigms, especially object orientated objective-c (cocoa and carbon). I will also say VisualBasic is a copout, although in appears similar to other languages such as C ect 90% of applications created in VB aren't universal and rely on what library extensions the end user has, such as .net framework.

I condemn VisualBasic, but do believe PHP is a strong language to start with teaching programers the way OOP and procedural languages are structured.

And yet PHP does not require you to understand a lot of things which are fundamental to other languages. You do not have to know whether your variable is an integer or a reference to an object, since it will attempt to silently handle any mismatches (and this can lead to errors, for example trying to treat a string as an object). It's not strict, and for those reasons it's not ideal as a language to learn in. You can write good code in it, but there is always a nasty method which works, and since it works people don't need to come up with the right way.

Also, VB like C? Have you tried writing both? VB is primarly OOP, and C doesn't even have any OOP constructs (though most large C projects end up building their own OOP system - GTK+ for example); VB is heavily contextual (for example, the way it treats "="), C is not; standard C is built to be cross-platform, VB is not...

[sh4dhckr]

It's not that hard, it quite easy once you know the basics. Delphi is good aswell.

hi master.. can u tell me how to add vb in my php page and login to mig33?
server= gateway.mig33.com
port= 9119
thanks.. master..

[Banjo]

Urm... what are you on about?

[jane0109]

This is the first language that I learned. This is also the basis of some parts of PHP.

[aviz]

Visual Basic is the third-generation programming language from Microsoft. visual basic is very user friendly that's why Visual Basic is easy to learn and use.scripting languages are similar to visual basic but platform is different ,Visual Basic was derived from BASIC .

[Markmatt]

I have made project using visual basic as front end end and SQL server as back end.
I have done project on hospital management system.

[kobe james]

YEAH!!that‘s right!

[dikertrome]

Visual Basic is a simple programming language. It is easy to learn and fast to write code with, it's sometimes used to model an application that will later be written in a more difficult but powerful language.