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grumpy
post Jun 3 2010, 02:28 PM
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For those who have never heard the term "burka", it refers to a veil covering the face, worn by muslim women in countries with muslim majorities aswell as many european states.
Belgium has recently banned the wearing of face coverings by law in public places and implemented a fine system for those caught wearing it. France,Italy and Spain are still considering future legislation on the topic
Is this justifiable, in your opinion, or a sign of intolerance?

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post Mar 26 2011, 07:54 PM
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I agree with Ed, however we have to add more to this...why would countries like Belgium or even France consider banning this " burkah" or "burqah" ? Because if the secular tradition of those states - whereby they are not seen or will not overtly support the Catholic clergy nor would they be seen as making religious comments or winking at the Pope...likewise they cannot support over-religious public displays in public schools, government buildings, where secularism is enshrined.

Also it becomes another issue...a cultural one. When we visit countries of the Arab world, when in the streets, foreigners are impressed that they should dress modestly - for women this means the knees must be covered, hair as well as well as arms...not considering 90 degree weather. This is not even including Saudi Arabia where even the Greek ambassador's wife some years ago was beaten with a stick by religious police for not stopping for prayer.

Now compared to that, what European countries are asking for is not much...and when you immigrate somewhere it is expected you have to live somewhat by the local rules or at least adapt somewhat...as foreigners would in the Arab world today when visiting for example.

Also lets not forget...these countries in the Arab world were much more "westernized" in the period of 1890-1960's than they are today. If you watch old Egyptian films from the 50's and even 60's you will see women dressed in western clothes, not covering up...they were more open societies than today. Iran is a sad example of a country that was westernized, modern, forward thinking, and took 1,000 steps backwards with the cavemen ayatollah's took over in 1979...now women in that country can not even drive or walk alone...

So in my modest opinion, European countries should ban this burkah, or even head scarfs...for women...do we want to see women covered up? hell no. Not me at least. Turkey has done well to not allow burka's by law...and should make it more effective...now the other countries should follow suit.

This has to be done while addressing also the assimilation or welcomness of these immigrants to European society, naturally.
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grumpy   Ban The Burka?   Jun 3 2010, 02:28 PM
aussiemcgr   It depends on the reasoning. I know that in a lo...   Jun 3 2010, 04:17 PM
Ed   From my understanding it is not actually an Islami...   Jun 3 2010, 04:35 PM
HarshGupta   The reason is that a covering of cloth is supposed...   May 23 2012, 09:27 AM
NaRzY   As Ed has stated it, they are not forced to wear a...   Jun 4 2010, 10:44 PM
grumpy   For the main and simple fact that if someone has m...   Jun 5 2010, 10:13 AM
aussiemcgr   Another example would be "goth culture",...   Jun 5 2010, 04:47 PM
Hillyer   Again, I could be ignorant.. but if residents of E...   Jul 21 2010, 08:39 AM
NaRzY   ...In the EU as a constitutional right, females ar...   Aug 4 2010, 12:48 PM
barriemore12   @Grumpy i think the burka is the traditional dre...   Aug 19 2010, 01:42 PM
wfano   Ban the burka has the same meaning as banning low-...   Mar 8 2011, 02:13 PM
Geneo   I agree with Ed, however we have to add more to th...   Mar 26 2011, 07:54 PM
richerdjohn   I agree with Ed, however we have to add more to th...   Apr 15 2011, 01:02 PM
xixiblue   I agree with Ed, however we have to add more to th...   Apr 26 2011, 03:13 AM
aimeesparker   wearing anything is to in my point person own dici...   May 2 2011, 07:35 AM
capital22012   wearing anything is to in my point person own dici...   Dec 28 2012, 03:31 PM
vikramrandhawa   It is the muslim tradition we cant say anything..I...   Sep 17 2011, 04:19 AM
jarulsolo   The garment is an locution of inequality, and the ...   Sep 17 2011, 07:59 PM
wp34   thanks you....   Sep 17 2011, 09:37 PM
whitemedia   It's a shame that security and national policy...   Sep 22 2011, 08:21 PM
ammyrodrics   This is generally a trend or we can say ritual to ...   Dec 7 2011, 07:19 AM
jimmycarter   It depends on the British Law but it is not good f...   Feb 14 2012, 10:47 AM
durga   Thanks for info.   Oct 30 2012, 07:50 AM
Billy Kane   Thanks a lot friends for sharing your useful opini...   Jul 2 2012, 07:22 PM
devkant   I don't think a women like wearing a burqa all...   Aug 7 2012, 10:52 AM
isacan   Burka isn't freedom or etc. Should be ban. I...   Apr 24 2013, 01:15 PM

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