Why dang? People who cut themselves should automatically die, waste of a human body.

wow.... are you that dumbfounded? read the upper posts.... and its not always the persons fault.... sometimes they cant help it.

Not dumbfounded at all, I never aimed that post toward you what so ever. How is it not their fault, they put the damn knife/razor/etc. to their skin.

this is getting off topic, but, some people suffer from depression and they cant control everything, there not in a good mental state, so most wont even remember doing it.

Tom, you're an idiot if you seriously think that people who cut themselves do it to be fashionable.
There are far too many reasons why people DO cut themselves, and its not weakness, its logic. Just hurting yourself is nowhere near "I QUIT", in fact it makes you feel better, so you don't fucking quit. If you're in a bad situation and you know you can get out of it by popping an artery, sometimes it would be stupid NOT to do it.
and what do you mean "If you have so little respect for your body" its your own friggin arm!
You're not doing anyone else any harm by doing that to yourself, so i don't see why other people get so annoyed by it.

actually not, cutting yourself actually releases endorfens which is a part of your brain which releases happiness. It's a form of exctasy. tho it is addicting.

those who actually "cut" themselves should get help:

Self Harm Hotline
1-800-DONTCUT

back on topic now....

They are just weak minded, thats why they can't control everything.



How do they not remember doing it? Thats like saying 'I don't remember raping that girl".

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For those who cut themselves, walk down the street, not acrossed it.

All i can say is for the people who do it, its like a drug, they cant help it. I personally do not like people who cut, but i do understand that SOME of them cant help it.

It's nothing like a drug. That's like saying jacking off is a drug.

Well it is. I've been trying to cut down for a while now, but i can't help but stick my hand down there at least once a day X(

Jesus Christ. Someone should make a thread about self-harm.

well as its an official thread now :



not aimed at me, so i actualy dont take it bad.. but if it was... i would. why ? :



Simple as that, now why they do it... we don't care... if they want to comit suicide we dont eather... what we care as you said :

do you think self-harm makes the pain go away... yes it does, by phisical answer...

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But, i persoanly think its the stupidest thing to do, why ? holy fuck you never heard of the if you are hurt at the stomach hit your head the pain will go away ? well i kinda do that.

People cuting them selfs want to release a certain "PAIN" ok ? we all agree to that???
This "PAIN" we actualy donno what it is.. right ? since we cut our selfs.. if we knew we will take the pain away by finding a special cure to the special pain... like.. i have a headach that take medicens..
Ok now what i personaly do, is instead of being hurt and not knowing why... i rather not liberate this pain since its gonna come back anytime soon i prefer to Hurt my self in a other way and know why i am hurt.
And this is seriouse, for example.. around 3 days ago i had this bad bad pain at the stomach... i didnt kow what was it.. i promess... i didnt get cold the other day, didnt eat junk food.. i really didnt know... but all i knew is it was a fuckin bad bad pain... what i did ? i hit the door with my right hand (wich i have a borken finger) and that hurt... and when i mean hirt, i couldnt move the hand... but at least the pain to my stomach was gone :/ bang bang and i actualy knew why i was hurt

Some might say.. yea but what if its not a phisical hurt... and more over a psychological pain... well some might use the cute wrsits theory... ill just use the MrTouzDreamTheory yep yep, have a dream.... create your world... include people you like, you love, the places you feel safe and cool, create the story and make everything go cool.

I persoanly think that cuting your self is kinda Bullshit, i really really think that its more over doing something than taking the pain away... or its acting dumb...

But, we all have our ways to take the pain away don't we ?

its just my opinion :/

lmao

We need to get together and make the anti-cut force.

and i feel kinda flattered that this turned into a full-fleged thread. lmao.

Just to clear matters up, the word EMO in my nick name is for fun, i do everything stereotypically just to have some fun.

:S If your body needs to release some endorfens it will do so on its own...
Cutting can lead to an infection which can lead to death...so just cutting once can kill you...So in a way yeah it is saying I quit...

not everyone is smart enough to go running... lol

Well then how about instead of making excuses for them we tell them all to go running...like randomly message Emos on myspace and be like:
Hey Emo...go run instead of cutting your self, Running will keep you happy Or make your parents take you to the doctor and get happy happy pills

First of all not all "EMOS" cut..... you'd be surprissed to find out that people you think would be normal do it. And spamming myspace? sounds fun.

make a nice lil posted and send it around.

So I was at work the other day, and this PFC said she has been up since 0420, and I said 'ah, puff puff pass?' and she kicked me in the sheen and I said 'What was that for?' and she said "Because you're an asshole and a dick!' and I replied "I didn't even say anything mean?' and she said 'Well, I don't smoke' so I walked over to my friend next to her and said 'I hate people who cut themselves, they are a waste of a human body', then I left and she asked him what I said. She wasn't very happy.

EMO is a type of music
EMO ISNT people going around cutting themselves.
Enlighten yourself, and see my post about stop discriminating in the Homos thread.

Emo means "emotional" right?

Well, it used to be. Now it's a cult, cuz if you're Emo, you're badass!

That's the psychology behind all of this. Some people (The lonely/depressed kind) need some social interaction. However, they cannot achieve this. So what do they do? They turn "emo" and all of a sudden everybody's like "wow! He's emo and he's like a goth and shiz!"

I've seen this happen to many of my classmates.

EMO is barley a type of music, its mostly just ripped from metal/punk

EMO means emotional and its the type of person you are.

You don't have to dress the part to be emo, alot of people are.

Okay, so they derived Emo from emotional, which turned to a genre of music? Lame.

So who was the dumbass that set the stereotype for emos cutting themselves anyways?

Myspace is a big factor..
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@tom: i know music, music is my life....

Alot of people here have made jokes about me being "emo" or whatever, but i've never "self harmed" I find it to be ridiculous and I don't understand when people do it. At all. I'm not an ass about it like you guys though

i agree
i hate the whole emo scene *shudders* - people who smoke weed and cut themselves and have long fringes don't deserve to have a right to live. Waste of living cells.
except for the music. music is good. even though its a rip.

No matter what people say, MOST do it for attention.
People who flaunt around how "emo" they are and cut themselves and show off their scars and bitch about their problems to everyone - shame on them. Especially when their problems really aren't that serious, and there are better, more productive ways to deal with them. These kinds of people do it because it's about conforming to a label that they want to have. It's just about as ridiculous as those who call themselves "punk." Scum of the fucking earth.

Now.
I used to self-harm. Not in the ways that I do now (with drugs), but with actual blades applied to my own skin by my own willing.
I had serious problems, but they never were serious enough to justify cutting myself. I was doing it because I was angry at certain people, violently so, and had to hurt something to calm myself down - me, or them. I chose the latter.
I stopped when I realized that violence - against myself or against others - rarely solves anything at all.
To blow off steam I can either depend on my friends to talk to, my girlfriend to talk to (and consequently sex), and drugs.

Now, about drugs. I only messed with the "right" kind - the kind that doesn't harm your body too much, but allows for intelligent introspective insights when used correctly. I saw myself from a different perspective, and saw which problems needed addressing to, and took care of them. On top of that, even addiction itself, as horrible as it seems (and it really is, when you mess with the wrong substances), can give you, at the very least, something to live for. Something to get up for in the morning. When you're reduced to using self-harm as physical therapy, you're really just looking for something to live for. Something to depend on. Drugs took care of that for me. But then I got a girlfriend and stopped depending on drugs altogether. There are more things than you might think that can pull you out of suicidal depression.

In conclusion, if you're self-harming, look for something less pointless to do. Drugs, therapy, seeing friends, maintaining a relationship - far better for you than slicing your own skin for the hell of it.

Well, firstly I don't see what is wrong with people who show off their scars, I mean, it is the height of cool, isn't it? I have friends who tattoo their own faces using blades and ink. And to be frank, I think its pure awesome and I look up at them with admiration. Its not a way of dealing with problems and can be a problem itself, as I soon figured out. Cutting is addictive. It starts off with a bit of a thrill but as soon as you get into the habit, you need to keep cutting yourself just to keep feeling "normal". It becomes your automatic reaction to anger or anxiety. I got septicemia from using dirty blades and shit, but that didn't stop me thinking it was all awesome and cool and everything.

Its not any worse than using drugs. If you seriously think that drugs "dont harm your body too much" then you have something seriously wrong in your head. Everyone thinks they're stronger than drugs. that they need them for help and can get off them whenever. Why does nobody understand addiction. Its stronger than anything. Even when you think you're "clean off" something. the slightest whiff of junk and you're back on it again. It stays with you for life.
Even if the drug itself doesn't mess you up, the lifestyle that goes with it can ruin you. being an addict. Using needles that aren't sterile. infections. blood poisoning. contaminated doses. ODing.

Dwayne What was the point of starting this topic? If someone self harm they do it at there own will.. Emos are what they are and what they want to be. As you can see EMOruffino is a very intelligent person why would he want to harm his self ? He has everything to look forward to. (Sorry to use you as an example EMOruffino) so why not leave emos/skaters etc... alone there human nothing different so dont judge people when you don't know them.

I get a warning ?

and what's with the :/?

agreed X12


thanx


this is also very very true....

So is this topic about self-harm or scar tats... Back in the day, some places had laws where it was against the law. Lets say this topic is about Self harm as attempted suicide. Back in the day, if you commited suicide, it was a FELONY, and all your possessions and property would be forfeited to the king and so forth.

Perhaps ppl harm themselves because they want attention or want others to feel their pain, or maybe even want to cause pain for others. Maybe they harm themselves because their depressed, if thats the case, i think depression is based on their values of good and bad and their tastes, they may have a lazy personality. Their values turned on them and they cant get their way anymore, so they sit there and pout, and poof depression magically appears. Maybe its a atheist or power struggle thing.

I just wanted to comment on it by mentioning the common law back in the day. That seemed like a serious crime back in the day, and still is today.

ON THE ART OF SCARRING THEIR BODIES TOPIC:
Whats the point of that trend of ppl scaring themselves... Are they trying to get brownie points from their peers. Wow that must of hurt, wow, you must had alot of courage, you sure are a cool dude...Come on maan, if you dont get scarred, your chicken...We look down on chickens, we dont level ourselves...No man, its art man, I wanna seek my own identity man.

Not much into either one of the topics mentioned, but had a comment, if your involved in either one, no problem, have you ever tried to find the motives of your actions, I speculated but always wondering and looking for other reasons

I didn't start the topic, read the subtitle of this thread.

i used to but kinda still do abit self mutilation by
scratching my hands open until they bleed
wehnever i got angry but ive learnt to over come it

The biggest thing I hate about self harm is when teenagers, with absolutly no problems in the world do it, and then when questioned about why they did it they say stuff like
"My this boy/girl hasn't responded to any of my SMS"
or "
My parents are absolute arse holes they wouldn't let me do blah blah blah".
It really annoys me and I tell them -I know a few- to grow up, look at other peoples problems -real problems- eg. people in the poorer countries of the world and get over it or take thier problems to someone who cares.

I know this sounds harsh but sometimes you've just got to tell people you know?

o noes!!! its been like 40 seconds and she still hasnt txted me back!!!

Lool
Well Said

or maybe just
"i like scars."

I don't know whether you are making fun of me... or the people who do it....

Tom was right, i was...

I would still rather workout then cut myself..... same relief you get......

Because at the rate of who does it, we could have alot of people with a washboard stomach then people looking like Edward Scissor Hands trying to scratch their arm.

i think the meaning of emo changes too fast.
before 2003, emo was a kind of insult used to describe anyone you thought was a "stress head" or if your teacher exploded at you screaming about something really petty you'd say "she's such an emo". violent or depressed kids were labelled "emo" because of their attitude, and it was nothing to be proud of. nothing to do with fashion, music or myspace.
2004 and onwards, emo became a fashion label, also used to refer to pretty much any type of music ranging from pop to classical rock. i think this new "emo" cult is more posey and scene than suicidal or angry. just my opinion.

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creep!

It's a (mostly) healthy obsession! I've met several females due to this obsession!
(Actually, I got a girl a knife for valentine's day once - she shares my obsession (also a fencer) )

Cutting yourself is not a healthy obsession...

Was referring to my obsession with swords/knives.

Oh lol.

I think viewing from the out side you will say its stupid.
But if your in the situation where theres nothing good in your life, you just want to put
the bullet in your head. Take me for an example.

I've been in the hospital for over a year, the doctors still dont know whats the matter with me.
Test after test. I got robbed of my graduation. I lost all credits due to the hospital. That means no prom,
no college, what the hell am i going to do for a job. My ex decided to cheat on me, on my birthday/anniversery.
Now she hangs out with all my friends and none of them decide to come see me. I did nothing wrong in the relationship. Cuz i called her a few bad names for the cheating, she wants me to go through hell. She's been getting drunk with my so called "friends" and egging my house. Next day i wake up to 9 voicemails saying im worthless, i have no friends...etc. Now dealing with all this together makes you want to not wake up another day. theres alot more to the situation, trust me. but thats good enough. And we all have our times, so im sure there worse. but people take it differently.

The thing is, at the time....where i was drowning from my sorrows, i wanted to kill myself.
People do it in the situation. Im sure after they have harm themselves or something, they think
how stupid they were after. So people who cut or kill themselves do it for the moment.
Now what i think people are missing, is why make a person want to go through that.
Why cant you just turn and leave them alone....so what if there not the way you want them to be. If your so perfect, why make others feel like crap.

Afterwards, i used the internet to vent, talk to real friends on the internet. You might not see them, but atleast their there for you.

Thats not the point i was putting across.

How do we decide what 'we' want them to be? Suicidal people make those decisions by themselves, nobody forces them to be that way.

Who said they were perfect?

Lol. I totally disagree with that whole freekin' long paragraph you wrote.

@Top
Suicidal people just dont wake up and say "oh hey lets die today."
People do make them that way. People make them feel like shit, anger them, do enough
just to make the person feel like shit. People effect others, obviously.

@bottom
Its an expression.....why do you need to make people feel insecure.
Why do you feel the need to make fun of people. Just because they look different, dress
different, it gives you the right to make people feel like crap?
Because there not the way you are, why change people?

That people is the key to all of this.
Why change people?......because its not your way?..its not what you like to see?




Just so you know, im not emo....i dont cut my wrist or any of that stuff. I feel people in this department
need some standing up. Now i do not agree that it is right to cut yourself or any of that. people should get help.
BUT, i dont think by calling them names, or telling them there worthless doesnt make it better. Help dont Fight.