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Dwayne
QUOTE(EMOruffino @ Nov 27 2007, 04:34 PM) *
what are you talking about?

a new Hitler?


No, Hitler was also a fag.

QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 27 2007, 06:23 PM) *
He's an American soldier, honestly what did you expect?


That has nothing to do with it.
Nexus
QUOTE(Jeyrad @ Dec 7 2007, 05:01 AM) *
I dont see why people think they have the right to tell others how to live their life. It's their decision to make as long as it effects only them and not others. (or others that want to be effected). Leave people alone, not everyone shares your same ideas.

I really don't care one way or the other about whether being homosexual is moral or not. All i know is, if god is real (which is highly doubtable imho) he is an asshole to make people gay. He has a divine plan for people right? and he makes people gay through that plan, you cant say he doesnt. If someone dies that is ALWAYS in god's divine plan, why cant a person being gay be in his "DIVINE PLAN"? And why does he look down upon something he created? The bible is full of shit and you all know it.


Agreed, with the whole fucking lot of it.
Tehkis
So, some of this has been stated, but I feel the need to reiterate things...

QUOTE(MrCracker @ Nov 8 2007, 03:35 PM) *
Totally wrong.. disgusting... against the bible.

You are not born with it.

If you are a homo you need a good whipping to get it out of you like they used to do it in the old days. It used to be classified as a sickness... should've stayed that way.

They are trying to get homoism into schools.. to teach in health class their up the butt routine.

Expanding to fast.

Threat to the future.

To the future of your kids.

Blah.

Flame.


Homosexuality is not expanding, yes, more people are out now, but this is because of the changing social climate. Instead of guys cheating on their wives with other guys now, they feel they can be gay, and not have to hide. Also, where in the hell are you from, a small village in the South. Seriously, whip them? Wow..

QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 8 2007, 05:01 PM) *
From a purely biological standpoint, it is undeniably counter-intuitive and certainly promotes Darwinism. It is undoubtedly a spit in the face of nature, and although there are rare exceptions such as "lesbian monkeys" (who, to my best recollection, did nothing more than wash each other), it is not observed anywhere else in the natural world.


Actually, homosexuality occurs in nature quite often, some animals even staying with their gay partner for a lifetime.


QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 8 2007, 05:01 PM) *
On the flip side, what I hate with a passion is the political correctness surrounding homosexuality and its status being forced as equivalent to heterosexuality (fuck you with your legislation, British Labour Party). Where it is being pressed onto children as young as nine is a horrible, horrible thing.

This, I agree with. Children in elementary schools should not be taught that homosexuality is normal. Also, by me saying this, I am saying that homosexuality is not normal, it is more than likely, according to some research, influenced, at least a little, by genetics and environment. However that does not mean that we should not accept those whom identify as homosexual.


QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 8 2007, 05:01 PM) *
Gay adoption is another nasty idea which disgusts me, because regardless of the love the child will receive, he/she still needs both male and female influences in life (especially in the early stages - women have a womb and breasts for a reason, for fucks sake), not to mention the bullying the child will receive in the current social climate. People need to focus on what's best for the child, just as single mothers do not qualify for adoption. Yes, I promoted my understanding of deviation from nature earlier, but with such fundamental building blocks in life it's difficult to stray from nature's intended path.

What is equally strange is the gay stereotype, with a camp voice, vivid dress sense et al. I am aware that homosexuality has its own subculture, but the alteration of voice is dumbfounded, and although, as aforementioned, a stereotype, it still rings true a lot of the time; not just on TV.


Ok, why does gay adoption 'disgust' you. Are you saying that two males or two females cannot raise a child normally? Maybe its because you are afraid that gay parents will raise a gay child, just like straight parents only raise straight children? [/sarcasm] Also, we still allow single parents to raise children, we don't take them away...

I also have to say, that gays with the overly gay stereotypical voice and mannerisms annoy the hell out me...


QUOTE(MrTouz @ Nov 19 2007, 01:43 PM) *
PROBLEM IS :

this thing starts to grow... its like all this muslim bullshit.... not that i am against... but look :

we all talk about racism and stuff... but where does racism come from actualy ? its from them... since when ? well they are the ones that said - well actualy Mahomet said : i will have to punish fataly punish - who ever doesnt not trust in Alah... so its a kind of discrimination somehow... or a type of racism... allowing nothing but their religion.

well with the homosexual people its gonna turn the same... you people might think i am crazy at the moment but look :

50 years ago, seing an homosexual was like ... ohmy.gif OMG wtf is that all about ?
10 years ago, it was NOT common... but we could see it, and use to talk about it
nowadays we see homosexual everywhere... and one problem just came

In france : homosexual are asking to adopt kids and be known as parents.
homosexual are asking to be able to be married inside a Church.

wtf is that all about ? they are asking to be known as same people as others - yet they are not. at least for the most of us.

i am only scared that one day they will be like anyone else when they are not... its like asking to much at once... TOOO much...


I believe here you are saying that homosexuality is spreading, which is false. As I said before, its just that more people are able to come out now. Homosexuals account for about 10% of the population, and have for a long while now.

Also, I think you are also saying homosexuals aren't human? Thats what I get from "They are not us". Are you serious? Do you actually think this shit? How dare you. A human is a human, no matter what.

QUOTE(MrTouz @ Nov 21 2007, 07:14 PM) *
why they shouldnt be ?

Ok ill change my point of view if you tell me :

How does a man and a man have a child ? (without adoption)
How does a woman and a woman have a child ? (without adoption)

its clearly impossible.

Listen, its since the beginning.. Adam and Eve... its all... a guy a stupid girl (yes im discriminating females) and Bing Bing Bong Bong some times to times... and BANG a little guy or girl.

I donno if you people forgot but you need a dick and a pussy. 2 dicks doesnt work.
Easier : take it like : You are NOT going to screw a screw with a screw ? not right !


Actually, a women can have a child with herself, all that needs to happen is one of her eggs to be pricked and it will start reproducing without sperm.
Also, so you are saying that an infertile couple is totally unnatural. They should be shunned and driven out of society because they cannot bare children?
Yea..

QUOTE(Colin @ Nov 24 2007, 03:24 PM) *
What if every person one the face of this earth was gay?...That would mean that life on this planet would seize to exist in like 90 Years tops...


Then gays would donate sperm to the lesbians...


OK, now for my little talk. I am gay. Yes, I am gay. I, am also a Christian, which means that I believe in God and Jesus Christ. Now, as I said before, I know that homosexuality is not normal, it is a genetic mutation helped along by environmental factors. I did NOT choose to be gay. For as long as I can remember, back to 2nd grade, I have always been attracted to other males. I am NOT an overly effeminate gay. People who I don't tell I am gay, or who don't ask, don't know. I do 'normal' male things. Also, I don't want special rights, I want equal rights. Apparently some of you think as gays as less than human, and therefore, it makes it easy for you to say that we do not deserve the same basic rights as other people. We can't get married, we are looked down on, its horrible. Do you people realize that if I have a life partner of 35 years who is dying from cancer, I can't be with him in the hospital because I am not married to him. The adversities we face suck. Just thought you all should know that.

Tehkis
Luke
QUOTE(EMOruffino @ Dec 6 2007, 09:00 PM) *
ever heard of happy pills?

I have a solution!! We put the whole world on happy pills!!!
Nexus
QUOTE(Tehkis @ Dec 7 2007, 07:08 AM) *
OK, now for my little talk. I am gay. Yes, I am gay. I, am also a Christian, which means that I believe in God and Jesus Christ. Now, as I said before, I know that homosexuality is not normal, it is a genetic mutation helped along by environmental factors. I did NOT choose to be gay. For as long as I can remember, back to 2nd grade, I have always been attracted to other males. I am NOT an overly effeminate gay. People who I don't tell I am gay, or who don't ask, don't know. I do 'normal' male things. Also, I don't want special rights, I want equal rights. Apparently some of you think as gays as less than human, and therefore, it makes it easy for you to say that we do not deserve the same basic rights as other people. We can't get married, we are looked down on, its horrible. Do you people realize that if I have a life partner of 35 years who is dying from cancer, I can't be with him in the hospital because I am not married to him. The adversities we face suck. Just thought you all should know that.

Tehkis


Finally, someone who is homosexual speaks up.

And, I agree with every word you said. Except the whole Christianity shit... cos I don't believe in that, but's that my opinion.
machine
Live and let live – that’s my motto.

Don’t force people to do things that are against their nature or will as long as what they do does not violate the written and unwritten laws of social existence and human [and humane] conduct.

Homosexuality may seem unnatural to me because I’m not gay, just as heterosexuality may seem unnatural to someone who is. And because there are more non-gay people than gay people around, homosexuality is considered to be ‘unnatural’ [in many societies and by many individuals].

However, let’s look at the issue, but by reversing the situation — if most societies were gay, then heterosexuality [or what we now consider ‘normal’] would have been considered ‘unnatural’.

I think is this a basic human flaw — what we do not understand we despise, fear and ridicule. It is one flaw that has led to wars, apartheid and exploitation.

Hopefully, we’ll be able to rise above the ignorance in this millennium.
Nexus
I don't like how sexual orientation is labeled. A heterosexual person is classed as "straight." I don't agree with that term because it implies that a homosexual is not straight. Or not normal.
Magnus
QUOTE(MrTouz @ Nov 19 2007, 01:43 PM) *
i guess hitler (and not Hitler coz he doesnt deserve the "H") was right somehow...

i am totaly against homosoxuality because it is against everything.

the problem is NOT homosexuality it self, you have the right to do what ever you want with your body, fuck with an other guy is not my business.

Knowing that its cool to see 2 girls having sex, seeing 2 guys having sex is totaly different. well that shows how homosexuality is nto the problem at all.

Seing 2 guys on street kissing each other ill just say its HUUUUUUUU but ok.. fine.. not my problem anyways :

PROBLEM IS :

this thing starts to grow... its like all this muslim bullshit.... not that i am against... but look :

we all talk about racism and stuff... but where does racism come from actualy ? its from them... since when ? well they are the ones that said - well actualy Mahomet said : i will have to punish fataly punish - who ever doesnt not trust in Alah... so its a kind of discrimination somehow... or a type of racism... allowing nothing but their religion.

well with the homosexual people its gonna turn the same... you people might think i am crazy at the moment but look :

50 years ago, seing an homosexual was like ... ohmy.gif OMG wtf is that all about ?
10 years ago, it was NOT common... but we could see it, and use to talk about it
nowadays we see homosexual everywhere... and one problem just came

In france : homosexual are asking to adopt kids and be known as parents.
homosexual are asking to be able to be married inside a Church.

wtf is that all about ? they are asking to be known as same people as others - yet they are not. at least for the most of us.

and you might say i am doing discrimination - well i am not - Homosexuality is just a variant of all... its like the Protestant, ortodox,.. or what ever... Sunit and Shiit... the homosexuals are just an other type of people...

i am only scared that one day they will be like anyone else when they are not... its like asking to much at once... TOOO much...

But i respect them more than anyone... and even respect more the ones that shw it coz they admit it and are not scared to show it... i have homosexual friends... i talk to them... and they understand my point of view.

its just going to far.... but thats my opinion.. only mine...


So more and more are coming out of the closet instead of living secret lives under the tyranny of the Catholic church? Seems like progress to me.

Whats wrong with homosexuals adopting kids? we have enough children floundering in the foster system with nobody who loves them or really cares, and of course the overflowing orphanages, and that is in the States alone, children from 3rd world countries all over are dying and starving and we can't help them and put them in good homes because, as Tom put it, they "need a woman figure too"

I'd rather grow up without a mommy or daddy figure and still have parents who love me than starve or end up dead at age 9. I don't know about you guys.
KiKoLuNa
I really don't care.. in FACT i support the homo cause, the more homos in the world, the more girls for us guys =D
just relax.
Colin
The majority of people are heterosexual so that is why they are straight...
ultra
Totally against, but not willing to attack homos physically as it happens in Russia for example)
sunnyd47
Why are people so damn interested in gay people anyway, what is it about them that makes them so interesting to take up so much of people "dislike" time.

Homosexuality is NOT a new phenomenon, nor is the act of "Gay" sexual contact only attributed to "Gay" men and women, many "Straight" people dip in and out of it as it suits them also.

Todays modern sexual activities are an adventure, for both men and women, it is not simply, as in days gone by, an activity to bring a child into the world.

The original form of contraceptive was indeed an activity that "Gay" people are derided for, yet it has and is openly used by "Hetrosexual" partners probably since time began.



The only persons sexual activity and preferences I have interets in is mine, what others do does not bother nor interest me as long as consenting adults.
Andrew
QUOTE(Nexus @ Dec 7 2007, 08:48 AM) *
I don't like how sexual orientation is labeled. A heterosexual person is classed as "straight." I don't agree with that term because it implies that a homosexual is not straight. Or not normal.

I pretty much agree with everything you and Tehkis said, but as for the "straight" thing, there are alot of fucked up words in our language that make no sense. For instance, hamburger. it's not made of ham. Parking on a driveway, driving on a parkway, etc. Our language is just messed up so bad. Sorry for the off topicness of my post.
Louis W
QUOTE(ib @ Nov 17 2007, 05:02 AM) *
I believe that people have a right to do whatever they want aslong as they don't harm anyone else. So yeah, gay people can do what they want, get married etc.

But that doesn't mean i don't think gay people are kinda strange and somewhat disgusting.




ever heard of aids
EMOruffino
QUOTE(Tom @ Mar 3 2008, 09:28 AM) *
I've heard of AIDS. It's a sexually transmitted disease present in both males and females. Your point being?

just with every other std, that wasn't very well thought out argument now was that?
Autistic Elephant
QUOTE(Louis W @ Mar 3 2008, 10:10 AM) *
ever heard of aids

Yah, some genius decided to screw a monkey. Probably a female monkey.


In my opinion, there should be no laws about something that doesn't harm other people. Ok, maybe a couple "cultural" laws like no nudity in public or something, to protect the little tykes.

But if people want to be gay in their own homes or whatever, more power to them.

But they're attention seekers: Yah, some people use it to get attention. They're like (most) emos. Should we ban emos? And while we're at it, let's ban expression in general. Ever read 1984?

But they're GROSS: Honestly, I hate seeing ANYONE kissing in the street. And hell, if you saw a guy eating a fish out of a stream, you'd think that's gross too. But that's their CULTURE. And gays have their own culture. (In America) we should respect other cultures even if their ways seem gross or strange to us.

But it's against the bible: Have you even read the effing bible? There's so much bullshit in there, and until you follow ALL of those rules, don't be picking out certain rules just to pick on a group of people or justify your actions.


Let people be who they are. Leave them the hell alone.


I don't like expressing my opinion in these kind of topics, but christ, there are a lot of posts with no logic behind them at all. (Although I did refute weaker points with rather weak and lazy logic :-S Heh)
grumpy
QUOTE(Autistic Elephant @ Mar 8 2008, 06:14 PM) *
Should we ban emos?


hell yeah. do us all a favor.

on a serious note, i dont see anything wrong with people being gay.Or gay people marrying. so long as it doesn't affect anyone else.
Andrew
Wait til emoruffino gets in here, he's gonna kick all your asses!
Paranoid
QUOTE(Autistic Elephant @ Mar 8 2008, 11:14 AM) *
But it's against the bible: Have you even read the effing bible? There's so much bullshit in there, and until you follow ALL of those rules, don't be picking out certain rules just to pick on a group of people or justify your actions.

I 100% agree with this statement, until you follow every rule in the bible...do not pick out one rule and criticize others with it. It is hypocritical.
RunningBare
QUOTE(MrCracker @ Nov 8 2007, 03:35 PM) *
Totally wrong.. disgusting... against the bible.

You are not born with it.

If you are a homo you need a good whipping to get it out of you like they used to do it in the old days. It used to be classified as a sickness... should've stayed that way.

They are trying to get homoism into schools.. to teach in health class their up the butt routine.

Expanding to fast.

Threat to the future.

To the future of your kids.

Blah.

Flame.


Hard coming out huh?
SwintellSoft
the way I see it is its not wrong nor right , personally I think they shouldnt bring it so much into schools were all kids make a trend out of it ..emos "wink" "wink" now if they bring it into schools and kids turn out gay alot eventually it will all be same gender and the population will decrease....
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