Totally wrong.. disgusting... against the bible.
You are not born with it.
If you are a homo you need a good whipping to get it out of you like they used to do it in the old days. It used to be classified as a sickness... should've stayed that way.
They are trying to get homoism into schools.. to teach in health class their up the butt routine.
Expanding to fast.
Threat to the future.
To the future of your kids.
Blah.
Flame.
Full Version: Homos
Here's an interesting topic.
About 2 years ago I was a Christian (haha, go figure) and was deeply against homosexuality, but now my stance has changed:
From a purely biological standpoint, it is undeniably counter-intuitive and certainly promotes Darwinism. It is undoubtedly a spit in the face of nature, and although there are rare exceptions such as "lesbian monkeys" (who, to my best recollection, did nothing more than wash each other), it is not observed anywhere else in the natural world.
But who cares about nature? We may not have been intended by nature to have intercourse with members of the same sex, just as we were not intended by nature to smoke cigarettes, to wear clothes, to use computers, to apply skincare products, to be excessively fat, to be overly skinny -- just to name a few. How is nature relevant in any sense of the word? How is nature's stereotype helpful to our understanding of sexual preference? I do however think that homosexuality is spouted from an environmental cause, not genetic foundation (nurture over nature).
So my view is that I cannot understand it, like I cannot understand many things. The cultural conservative in me dislikes it from a moral perspective, but my more liberal side argues for the support of human deviation -- I have my own perversions, dislikeable character traits and shortcomings which many will find incomprehensible, so who am I to judge? What has gender got anything to do with it? At the end of the day so long as they don't interfere with me, what people do in their personal life is absolutely none of my business, just as mine is nothing of theirs. To quote Stephen Fry, "What you do with your penis or your bottom or anything else is so supremely irrelevant in a moral sense. It's what we do with our personalities and other people that matters."
On the flip side, what I hate with a passion is the political correctness surrounding homosexuality and its status being forced as equivalent to heterosexuality (fuck you with your legislation, British Labour Party). Where it is being pressed onto children as young as nine is a horrible, horrible thing. Gay adoption is another nasty idea which disgusts me, because regardless of the love the child will receive, he/she still needs both male and female influences in life (especially in the early stages - women have a womb and breasts for a reason, for fucks sake), not to mention the bullying the child will receive in the current social climate. People need to focus on what's best for the child, just as single mothers do not qualify for adoption. Yes, I promoted my understanding of deviation from nature earlier, but with such fundamental building blocks in life it's difficult to stray from nature's intended path.
What is equally strange is the gay stereotype, with a camp voice, vivid dress sense et al. I am aware that homosexuality has its own subculture, but the alteration of voice is dumbfounded, and although, as aforementioned, a stereotype, it still rings true a lot of the time; not just on TV.
So in effect, another fence sitter for me.
About 2 years ago I was a Christian (haha, go figure) and was deeply against homosexuality, but now my stance has changed:
From a purely biological standpoint, it is undeniably counter-intuitive and certainly promotes Darwinism. It is undoubtedly a spit in the face of nature, and although there are rare exceptions such as "lesbian monkeys" (who, to my best recollection, did nothing more than wash each other), it is not observed anywhere else in the natural world.
But who cares about nature? We may not have been intended by nature to have intercourse with members of the same sex, just as we were not intended by nature to smoke cigarettes, to wear clothes, to use computers, to apply skincare products, to be excessively fat, to be overly skinny -- just to name a few. How is nature relevant in any sense of the word? How is nature's stereotype helpful to our understanding of sexual preference? I do however think that homosexuality is spouted from an environmental cause, not genetic foundation (nurture over nature).
So my view is that I cannot understand it, like I cannot understand many things. The cultural conservative in me dislikes it from a moral perspective, but my more liberal side argues for the support of human deviation -- I have my own perversions, dislikeable character traits and shortcomings which many will find incomprehensible, so who am I to judge? What has gender got anything to do with it? At the end of the day so long as they don't interfere with me, what people do in their personal life is absolutely none of my business, just as mine is nothing of theirs. To quote Stephen Fry, "What you do with your penis or your bottom or anything else is so supremely irrelevant in a moral sense. It's what we do with our personalities and other people that matters."
On the flip side, what I hate with a passion is the political correctness surrounding homosexuality and its status being forced as equivalent to heterosexuality (fuck you with your legislation, British Labour Party). Where it is being pressed onto children as young as nine is a horrible, horrible thing. Gay adoption is another nasty idea which disgusts me, because regardless of the love the child will receive, he/she still needs both male and female influences in life (especially in the early stages - women have a womb and breasts for a reason, for fucks sake), not to mention the bullying the child will receive in the current social climate. People need to focus on what's best for the child, just as single mothers do not qualify for adoption. Yes, I promoted my understanding of deviation from nature earlier, but with such fundamental building blocks in life it's difficult to stray from nature's intended path.
What is equally strange is the gay stereotype, with a camp voice, vivid dress sense et al. I am aware that homosexuality has its own subculture, but the alteration of voice is dumbfounded, and although, as aforementioned, a stereotype, it still rings true a lot of the time; not just on TV.
So in effect, another fence sitter for me.
Wow Tom...long post, I read a few paragraphs and my head started to hurt rofl...
My view on this is the ones who do it for attention (Like with ones with short shorts, poodles, and that gay lisp
) are really just stupid but the ones who are just normal people...for example, Will (top right corner) at first glance you could not tell he is gay...But Jack is pretty obvious...:
Also, change the title to Homosexuals, Homo by itself can mean a few different things
My view on this is the ones who do it for attention (Like with ones with short shorts, poodles, and that gay lisp
) are really just stupid but the ones who are just normal people...for example, Will (top right corner) at first glance you could not tell he is gay...But Jack is pretty obvious...:Also, change the title to Homosexuals, Homo by itself can mean a few different things
the top right is grace....
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What is equally strange is the gay stereotype, with a camp voice, vivid dress sense et al. I am aware that homosexuality has its own subculture, but the alteration of voice is dumbfounded, and although, as aforementioned, a stereotype, it still rings true a lot of the time; not just on TV.
I too hate this, people like Alan Carr, Julian Clary, for some reason apparently it's funny to slip in as much homosexual innuendo as possible, it's not like we have straight comedians that slip in a reference to sex in everything they say, one trick pony is all I can say and an unfunny trick at that.
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What is equally strange is the gay stereotype, with a camp voice, vivid dress sense et al. I am aware that homosexuality has its own subculture, but the alteration of voice is dumbfounded, and although, as aforementioned, a stereotype, it still rings true a lot of the time; not just on TV.
agreed, gay people are fine, but when the get overly flamboyant, then all hell must break loose.
People have a right to their bodies. As for schools, I would say that's a result of the lack of separation between State and School. The Federal Government takes over education, and that attracts the special interests that would like frivolous topics like these to be discussed.
In short, free markets and private schools (subject to the parents' desires, not special interest) would benefit education (both in cost and in subject matter/quality). Less Government is needed.
In a free market, if one private school starts to teach about homosexuality in health classes, and people don't like that, a few things would happen:
1. The parents who pay for the services of the school would probably take their kid out of that school; if enough parents do this, it would put significant pressure on the school to stop teaching of such frivolous topics.
2. If public opinion turns against the school, other independent schools will capitalize on this; thus taking the customers from the other school.
This is really all about competition. When the Government centralizes and monopolizes something, it stifles all competition. In a free market (all private entities are subject to the judgment of the consumer), any monopoly would be very unlikely, and if one did exist it would be because it offers the best services.
Basically: Who can compete with the Government? It has guaranteed funding, and, when centralized, is bound to attract special interests.
In short, free markets and private schools (subject to the parents' desires, not special interest) would benefit education (both in cost and in subject matter/quality). Less Government is needed.
In a free market, if one private school starts to teach about homosexuality in health classes, and people don't like that, a few things would happen:
1. The parents who pay for the services of the school would probably take their kid out of that school; if enough parents do this, it would put significant pressure on the school to stop teaching of such frivolous topics.
2. If public opinion turns against the school, other independent schools will capitalize on this; thus taking the customers from the other school.
This is really all about competition. When the Government centralizes and monopolizes something, it stifles all competition. In a free market (all private entities are subject to the judgment of the consumer), any monopoly would be very unlikely, and if one did exist it would be because it offers the best services.
Basically: Who can compete with the Government? It has guaranteed funding, and, when centralized, is bound to attract special interests.
What a random take on the topic, ignoring the morality and reasoning of it as one would have thought, instead choosing to focus in a rather ignorant and ethnocentric manner to the US economy via an insignificant blip in the first post.
I believe that people have a right to do whatever they want aslong as they don't harm anyone else. So yeah, gay people can do what they want, get married etc.
But that doesn't mean i don't think gay people are kinda strange and somewhat disgusting.
But that doesn't mean i don't think gay people are kinda strange and somewhat disgusting.
QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 16 2007, 09:51 PM) 
What a random take on the topic, ignoring the morality and reasoning of it as one would have thought, instead choosing to focus in a rather ignorant and ethnocentric manner to the US economy via an insignificant blip in the first post.
Well, the first post really didn't have much reasoning or argument. He just kind of claimed that it is somehow "immoral" to be gay. The only thing that he said which even seemed remotely like an argument was his claim that schools are trying to "teach homoism."
I choose to focus on the economic aspect because there's absolutely nothing interesting about the morality of homosexuality.
QUOTE(Balden @ Nov 17 2007, 02:47 PM)
because there's absolutely nothing interesting about the morality of homosexuality.
Thousands upon thousands of people beg to differ.
QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 17 2007, 03:46 PM)
Thousands upon thousands of people beg to differ.
Different strokes for different folks!
The bible is so stupid, being against gay people, they are born that way, it is a proven fact.
Even if theyre is a god, the fact that he would be mean enough to hate people just because of the gender of people they like is sick and wrong and thats enough to make me an atheist.
Stupid fundies...
Even if theyre is a god, the fact that he would be mean enough to hate people just because of the gender of people they like is sick and wrong and thats enough to make me an atheist.
Stupid fundies...
QUOTE(Coolalex @ Nov 19 2007, 06:15 AM)
gay people, they are born that way, it is a proven fact.
No, it's not a proven fact.
i guess hitler (and not Hitler coz he doesnt deserve the "H") was right somehow...
i am totaly against homosoxuality because it is against everything.
the problem is NOT homosexuality it self, you have the right to do what ever you want with your body, fuck with an other guy is not my business.
Knowing that its cool to see 2 girls having sex, seeing 2 guys having sex is totaly different. well that shows how homosexuality is nto the problem at all.
Seing 2 guys on street kissing each other ill just say its HUUUUUUUU but ok.. fine.. not my problem anyways :
PROBLEM IS :
this thing starts to grow... its like all this muslim bullshit.... not that i am against... but look :
we all talk about racism and stuff... but where does racism come from actualy ? its from them... since when ? well they are the ones that said - well actualy Mahomet said : i will have to punish fataly punish - who ever doesnt not trust in Alah... so its a kind of discrimination somehow... or a type of racism... allowing nothing but their religion.
well with the homosexual people its gonna turn the same... you people might think i am crazy at the moment but look :
50 years ago, seing an homosexual was like ...
OMG wtf is that all about ?
10 years ago, it was NOT common... but we could see it, and use to talk about it
nowadays we see homosexual everywhere... and one problem just came
In france : homosexual are asking to adopt kids and be known as parents.
homosexual are asking to be able to be married inside a Church.
wtf is that all about ? they are asking to be known as same people as others - yet they are not. at least for the most of us.
and you might say i am doing discrimination - well i am not - Homosexuality is just a variant of all... its like the Protestant, ortodox,.. or what ever... Sunit and Shiit... the homosexuals are just an other type of people...
i am only scared that one day they will be like anyone else when they are not... its like asking to much at once... TOOO much...
But i respect them more than anyone... and even respect more the ones that shw it coz they admit it and are not scared to show it... i have homosexual friends... i talk to them... and they understand my point of view.
its just going to far.... but thats my opinion.. only mine...
i am totaly against homosoxuality because it is against everything.
the problem is NOT homosexuality it self, you have the right to do what ever you want with your body, fuck with an other guy is not my business.
Knowing that its cool to see 2 girls having sex, seeing 2 guys having sex is totaly different. well that shows how homosexuality is nto the problem at all.
Seing 2 guys on street kissing each other ill just say its HUUUUUUUU but ok.. fine.. not my problem anyways :
PROBLEM IS :
this thing starts to grow... its like all this muslim bullshit.... not that i am against... but look :
we all talk about racism and stuff... but where does racism come from actualy ? its from them... since when ? well they are the ones that said - well actualy Mahomet said : i will have to punish fataly punish - who ever doesnt not trust in Alah... so its a kind of discrimination somehow... or a type of racism... allowing nothing but their religion.
well with the homosexual people its gonna turn the same... you people might think i am crazy at the moment but look :
50 years ago, seing an homosexual was like ...
OMG wtf is that all about ?10 years ago, it was NOT common... but we could see it, and use to talk about it
nowadays we see homosexual everywhere... and one problem just came
In france : homosexual are asking to adopt kids and be known as parents.
homosexual are asking to be able to be married inside a Church.
wtf is that all about ? they are asking to be known as same people as others - yet they are not. at least for the most of us.
and you might say i am doing discrimination - well i am not - Homosexuality is just a variant of all... its like the Protestant, ortodox,.. or what ever... Sunit and Shiit... the homosexuals are just an other type of people...
i am only scared that one day they will be like anyone else when they are not... its like asking to much at once... TOOO much...
But i respect them more than anyone... and even respect more the ones that shw it coz they admit it and are not scared to show it... i have homosexual friends... i talk to them... and they understand my point of view.
its just going to far.... but thats my opinion.. only mine...
You are so clueless.
^
Also I just noticed Colin doesn't know his lefts from his rights.
QUOTE(MrTouz @ Nov 19 2007, 08:43 AM)
..long rant...
I'm not quite sure I understand what you are trying to get at. I think that it is quite obvious that homosexuals are discriminated against.
Offtopic:
Why do you use some many colons?
QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 19 2007, 01:02 PM)
Also I just noticed Colin doesn't know his lefts from his rights.
lol maybe because he is above the ignorance?
Seriously, what is actually wrong with being a homosexual? I for one, am not a homosexual (but bow that I'm defending them you'll probably just accuse I am, you bastards ).
For one - God is a hypocritical prick. And the Bible is bullshit. Sorry to piss on your parade and go all anti-Christ on you, but I really couldn't a rats ass. I DO NOT believe in God, nor do I believe homosexuals should be declined their spiritual/religious beliefs.
Homosexuals have just as much right as you are. It's just like Tom said, we weren't intended on doing hunreds of things this so called "nature" intended. Hell you have porn and masturbation, do you think nature or your precious God wanted you to do that? No, didn't think so. For one, masturbation is not a form of reproduction.
As for homosexual adoption, I couldn't care less. But if it were me, I'd probably go for a surrogate anyway. At least that way my child would actually have a mother he/she KNOWS. Unlike an adopted one where all you know is you have two fathers/mothers and don't know who the hell are your real parents.
I seriously depise people who cannot accept homosexuals for who they are. That's just outright descrimination. And I believe homosexual people should be given equal rights just like heterosexuals are (ever heard of the Human Rights Act? Or are we all just assholes here?).
If a homosexual wants to get married, then so bloody be it! They wanna adopt, then go right ahead! The only quarral I'll ever have with one is if they ever try to get it on with me. Because I have no objection to kicking them in the nuts if so be it -- that IMO, cheapshot as it may be, will get most people to fuck off.
).For one - God is a hypocritical prick. And the Bible is bullshit. Sorry to piss on your parade and go all anti-Christ on you, but I really couldn't a rats ass. I DO NOT believe in God, nor do I believe homosexuals should be declined their spiritual/religious beliefs.
Homosexuals have just as much right as you are. It's just like Tom said, we weren't intended on doing hunreds of things this so called "nature" intended. Hell you have porn and masturbation, do you think nature or your precious God wanted you to do that? No, didn't think so. For one, masturbation is not a form of reproduction.
As for homosexual adoption, I couldn't care less. But if it were me, I'd probably go for a surrogate anyway. At least that way my child would actually have a mother he/she KNOWS. Unlike an adopted one where all you know is you have two fathers/mothers and don't know who the hell are your real parents.
I seriously depise people who cannot accept homosexuals for who they are. That's just outright descrimination. And I believe homosexual people should be given equal rights just like heterosexuals are (ever heard of the Human Rights Act? Or are we all just assholes here?).
If a homosexual wants to get married, then so bloody be it! They wanna adopt, then go right ahead! The only quarral I'll ever have with one is if they ever try to get it on with me. Because I have no objection to kicking them in the nuts if so be it -- that IMO, cheapshot as it may be, will get most people to fuck off.
I completely agree Nexus!! I'm with you brother. I just find the thought utterly disgusting... I have nothing against homosexuals, though.
I just find the thought utterly disgusting... I have nothing against homosexuals, though.
Thank you, at least someone agrees with me.
I'd also like to apologize if people find my beliefs... offensive. Yes, I do not believe in God (and I have my reasons, this belief goes across all religions) and yes, I do defend homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, doesn't matter. I am a strong believer of the Human Rights Act. And a lot within it may never be accomplished to a good extent, but we can at least try!
Sure, homosexuals are "sinners" in the eyes of the "almighty God." So fucking what? At least they believe in something (sure, something I may not believe in, but so what?) unless of course, well, they don't (and that's inevitable people). However, I have never seen a christian answer me the question, as to why homosexuals really aren't accepted as christians themselves.
And don't give me that bullshit about "it's wrong in the eyes of God" because I honestly don't give a rats ass about God (again, no offense to religious people). I thought God was merciless (or merciful? I can't tell, which one is it? He's either one or the other but you people keep saying he's both! MAKE UP YOUR FREAKING MIND DAMN IT!) and I also thought everyone on earth was "built" (for lack of a better word) in God's image. If this is so true, then how come we all look different, are not treated as equals (which is one of our rights as a human) and in general, assholes?
I'd also like to apologize if people find my beliefs... offensive. Yes, I do not believe in God (and I have my reasons, this belief goes across all religions) and yes, I do defend homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, doesn't matter. I am a strong believer of the Human Rights Act. And a lot within it may never be accomplished to a good extent, but we can at least try!
Sure, homosexuals are "sinners" in the eyes of the "almighty God." So fucking what? At least they believe in something (sure, something I may not believe in, but so what?) unless of course, well, they don't (and that's inevitable people). However, I have never seen a christian answer me the question, as to why homosexuals really aren't accepted as christians themselves.
And don't give me that bullshit about "it's wrong in the eyes of God" because I honestly don't give a rats ass about God (again, no offense to religious people). I thought God was merciless (or merciful? I can't tell, which one is it? He's either one or the other but you people keep saying he's both! MAKE UP YOUR FREAKING MIND DAMN IT!) and I also thought everyone on earth was "built" (for lack of a better word) in God's image. If this is so true, then how come we all look different, are not treated as equals (which is one of our rights as a human) and in general, assholes?
Also, Christ didn't even mention homosexuality during his lifetime. It's mentioned in the OT and some of the NT, but not directly addressed by Christ himself. If something is so fundamentally wrong and its members are not to be followers, then surely this should have been answered?
but to put things in context, this is amidst other biblical law along with stuff like (pulled randomly from Leviticus):
LOL!
Add to this the fact that the first five books of the OT containing most of the law were not even composed by Moses through God, rather mortals appointed by figures of authority to work with the social climate, and it's possible to superficially debase the traditional Christian view of homosexuality.
QUOTE(Leviticus 18:22)
Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
but to put things in context, this is amidst other biblical law along with stuff like (pulled randomly from Leviticus):
QUOTE(Leviticus 13:45)
The person with such an infectious disease must wear torn clothes, let his hair be unkempt, cover the lower part of his face and cry out, 'Unclean! Unclean!
LOL!
Add to this the fact that the first five books of the OT containing most of the law were not even composed by Moses through God, rather mortals appointed by figures of authority to work with the social climate, and it's possible to superficially debase the traditional Christian view of homosexuality.
QUOTE(Nexus @ Nov 21 2007, 07:22 AM)
Thank you, at least someone agrees with me.
I'd also like to apologize if people find my beliefs... offensive. Yes, I do not believe in God (and I have my reasons, this belief goes across all religions) and yes, I do defend homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, doesn't matter. I am a strong believer of the Human Rights Act. And a lot within it may never be accomplished to a good extent, but we can at least try!
Sure, homosexuals are "sinners" in the eyes of the "almighty God." So fucking what? At least they believe in something (sure, something I may not believe in, but so what?) unless of course, well, they don't (and that's inevitable people). However, I have never seen a christian answer me the question, as to why homosexuals really aren't accepted as christians themselves.
And don't give me that bullshit about "it's wrong in the eyes of God" because I honestly don't give a rats ass about God (again, no offense to religious people). I thought God was merciless (or merciful? I can't tell, which one is it? He's either one or the other but you people keep saying he's both! MAKE UP YOUR FREAKING MIND DAMN IT!) and I also thought everyone on earth was "built" (for lack of a better word) in God's image. If this is so true, then how come we all look different, are not treated as equals (which is one of our rights as a human) and in general, assholes?
I'd also like to apologize if people find my beliefs... offensive. Yes, I do not believe in God (and I have my reasons, this belief goes across all religions) and yes, I do defend homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, doesn't matter. I am a strong believer of the Human Rights Act. And a lot within it may never be accomplished to a good extent, but we can at least try!
Sure, homosexuals are "sinners" in the eyes of the "almighty God." So fucking what? At least they believe in something (sure, something I may not believe in, but so what?) unless of course, well, they don't (and that's inevitable people). However, I have never seen a christian answer me the question, as to why homosexuals really aren't accepted as christians themselves.
And don't give me that bullshit about "it's wrong in the eyes of God" because I honestly don't give a rats ass about God (again, no offense to religious people). I thought God was merciless (or merciful? I can't tell, which one is it? He's either one or the other but you people keep saying he's both! MAKE UP YOUR FREAKING MIND DAMN IT!) and I also thought everyone on earth was "built" (for lack of a better word) in God's image. If this is so true, then how come we all look different, are not treated as equals (which is one of our rights as a human) and in general, assholes?
I also do not believe in god and my friend is always pissin me off about it but I try to be respectful of it. It comes down to this... everyone, EVERYONE should be equal and treated fairly. I could go on defending my point be that would need a thread of its own.
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discriminated against.
why they shouldnt be ?
Ok ill change my point of view if you tell me :
How does a man and a man have a child ? (without adoption)
How does a woman and a woman have a child ? (without adoption)
its clearly impossible.
Listen, its since the beginning.. Adam and Eve... its all... a guy a stupid girl (yes im discriminating females) and Bing Bing Bong Bong some times to times... and BANG a little guy or girl.
I donno if you people forgot but you need a dick and a pussy. 2 dicks doesnt work.
Easier : take it like : You are NOT going to screw a screw with a screw ? not right !
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Like i said, having 2 homos next to me.. i don't care till they don't piss me off. Its not my ass that is going to get blown.
But them saying they want child and than wanting to get married in a church... its totally against the Christ...
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Who ever said i am clueless better shut his mouth. (dont take it badly tho.)
its just my opinion.. i cant help it
What do you take us for, absolute retards? So you had to say that in the most disgusting and vulgar way possible, eh?
It doesn't matter if you need a guy to reproduce, or a female. Without either, you cannot reproduce. And adoption is an option, so homosexuals and lesbians can USE that option.
And you, never to get you head screwed on tighter. If you descriminate women and homosexuals, I'd hate to see what else you like to discriminate.
It doesn't matter if you need a guy to reproduce, or a female. Without either, you cannot reproduce. And adoption is an option, so homosexuals and lesbians can USE that option.
And you, never to get you head screwed on tighter. If you descriminate women and homosexuals, I'd hate to see what else you like to discriminate.
He wasn't meaning that gay people can't have kids, he was pointing out that the only way to make kids is with a man and a woman...
QUOTE(MrTouz @ Nov 21 2007, 07:14 PM)
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Like i said, having 2 homos next to me.. i don't care till they don't piss me off. Its not my ass that is going to get blown.
But them saying they want child and than wanting to get married in a church... its totally against the Christ...
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Like i said, having 2 homos next to me.. i don't care till they don't piss me off. Its not my ass that is going to get blown.
But them saying they want child and than wanting to get married in a church... its totally against the Christ...
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Most people get married in a church, where else do they get married? In a fucking dump? If a priest doesn't want to wed a gay couple because it's "un-Christianlike' then I'd tell that c\pirest where to fucking shove it. Is it Christian-like to make someone pay to express their love for someone? Is it Christian to close down a chruch's door becasuse you're different? No. End of story.
QUOTE(Nexus @ Nov 24 2007, 01:34 AM)
Most people get married in a church, where else do they get married? In a fucking dump?
Most Christian people get married in churches. You'll find that people other other beliefs tend to do it somewhere else.
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If a priest doesn't want to wed a gay couple because it's "un-Christianlike' then I'd tell that c\pirest where to fucking shove it.
He has beliefs, you have yours. To be honest, most christians agree with him, not you.
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Is it Christian-like to make someone pay to express their love for someone? Is it Christian to close down a chruch's door becasuse you're different? No. End of story.
No? Well, I'm sure you know better than history.
Bleh, God is bullshit. If God existed a lot of people should already be in Hell and/or dead by now. God is a hypocrite and contradictive. He doesn't like homosexuals and yet, Christians state his love for all his children (hypocritical), he doesn't like homosexuals yet humans are made in his image (meaning he must be gay as well).
Wait, exactly what steps of logic have led you to "God must be gay"? I'm not seeing the progression... They were created in his image, but he also gave them free will so they could choose to do whatever they wanted. For that reason, people today needn't have anything much to do with him in the choices they make and the things they do.
Also, the fact that God loves all his children is not a problem for those arguing against homosexuality because they think it's against christianity. Their implication is that they are /not/ one of God's children, because of blaspheming or whatever.
I don't believe in christianity, but I still don't think your assertions are particularly valid.
Also, the fact that God loves all his children is not a problem for those arguing against homosexuality because they think it's against christianity. Their implication is that they are /not/ one of God's children, because of blaspheming or whatever.
I don't believe in christianity, but I still don't think your assertions are particularly valid.
How the hell is it blaphemist to be gay? That's just pathetic.
It would mean that being gay is "an act of cursing or reviling God." I do not believe this to be true. Also, if gay people are not of God's children then who the hell made them? It just doesn't add up.
Give me all the excuses a Christian wants and there'll still be an unanswered question.
It would mean that being gay is "an act of cursing or reviling God." I do not believe this to be true. Also, if gay people are not of God's children then who the hell made them? It just doesn't add up.
Give me all the excuses a Christian wants and there'll still be an unanswered question.
What if every person one the face of this earth was gay?...That would mean that life on this planet would seize to exist in like 90 Years tops...
The same would happen if everyone chose not to have children (like many do). Homosexuality will always be a minority for the reason that survival comes first. Whether you believe homosexuality comes through nature or nurture, it will still always be a minority.
Population levels are already at a ridiculous level and only increasing - to be honest I wish more people were gay to counter this. :/
Population levels are already at a ridiculous level and only increasing - to be honest I wish more people were gay to counter this. :/
Even if everyone on the world, repopulation could still work. There will always be females or male. It's called surrogation. Unless you kill off one gender, then we're not 100% fucked.
QUOTE(Nexus @ Nov 24 2007, 05:09 PM)
Even if everyone on the world, repopulation could still work. There will always be females or male. It's called surrogation. Unless you kill off one gender, then we're not 100% fucked.
agreed...
Kill them all?
Worldwide genocide? That's just sick, pointless and utterly stupid.
QUOTE(Dwayne @ Nov 27 2007, 03:00 AM)
Kill them all?
what are you talking about?
a new Hitler?
QUOTE(EMOruffino @ Nov 27 2007, 04:34 PM)
what are you talking about?
a new Hitler?
a new Hitler?
He's an American soldier, honestly what did you expect?
I say we stick all of them in San Francisco (Many of them are there already) and put a big bubble over it (like in Simpsons movie) and then we can let them live their lives there...as much of a joke this post is, that actually could work...There would not be any arguing between Gays and Conservatives...Lolzzz
Oh? So you think homosexual people should be stuck in a bubble because YOU can't accept them? How would you like it if all heterosexuals were stuck in some remote place? You wouldn't like it, would you?
Put yourself in a homosexuals shoes - look at life from THEIR point of view. They get discriminated all the time, and it's over topics like this that's why. People discriminate fucking everything. Gay people, mentally challenged people, handicapped people. My belief is that the whole human population are FUCKING ASSHOLES. And we are.
We have no need for anyone but ourselves and our own greed and desires. We couldn't give a fuck about some little kids hunger fucking problems across the world, as long as we can stuff our faces. We don't care if someone suffers from a mental illness as long as we DON'T. And we don't give a shit about homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals or anyone not "straight" because apparently, in our eyes - they're "weird" and should be punished.
Put yourself in a homosexuals shoes - look at life from THEIR point of view. They get discriminated all the time, and it's over topics like this that's why. People discriminate fucking everything. Gay people, mentally challenged people, handicapped people. My belief is that the whole human population are FUCKING ASSHOLES. And we are.
We have no need for anyone but ourselves and our own greed and desires. We couldn't give a fuck about some little kids hunger fucking problems across the world, as long as we can stuff our faces. We don't care if someone suffers from a mental illness as long as we DON'T. And we don't give a shit about homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals or anyone not "straight" because apparently, in our eyes - they're "weird" and should be punished.
QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 27 2007, 12:23 PM)
He's an American soldier, honestly what did you expect?
Lol Homosexuals are a minority, Hell...If you stick straight people in a bubble then you would need a bigger bubble and it would cost more, and some of us are discriminating on a budget! rofl xD
Bah, minority or not. People, gay, straight, black nor white should have to deal with discrimination.
You forgot to include Asians and Latinos, asshole.
Gay people are defying the rules of god. In the past, homosexuals have been tortured, then killed. Nowadays, they can live however the hell they want! OMG! THIS IS AN EPIDEMIC PEOPLES! LET'S KILL ALL THE HOMOZ![/sarcasm]
Okay, so imagine if gays were the majority and vice versa. There would still be conflict. Besides, what kind of world would our be without conflict? Everyone loves conflict!
Seriously, the minority always gets all the bullshit. No matter where you are.
Hold on, lemme rephrase that. The minority gets all the bullshit, unless they're rich minorities.
Gay people are defying the rules of god. In the past, homosexuals have been tortured, then killed. Nowadays, they can live however the hell they want! OMG! THIS IS AN EPIDEMIC PEOPLES! LET'S KILL ALL THE HOMOZ![/sarcasm]
Okay, so imagine if gays were the majority and vice versa. There would still be conflict. Besides, what kind of world would our be without conflict? Everyone loves conflict!
Seriously, the minority always gets all the bullshit. No matter where you are.
Hold on, lemme rephrase that. The minority gets all the bullshit, unless they're rich minorities.
QUOTE(XyberForce @ Nov 29 2007, 04:37 PM)
unless they're rich minorities.
haha, No necessarily, Cops are notorious for treating rich black people like shit
QUOTE(Nexus @ Nov 28 2007, 01:38 AM)
We have no need for anyone but ourselves and our own greed and desires. We couldn't give a fuck about some little kids hunger fucking problems across the world, as long as we can stuff our faces. We don't care if someone suffers from a mental illness as long as we DON'T. And we don't give a shit about homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals or anyone not "straight" because apparently, in our eyes - they're "weird" and should be punished.
Just like Christopher Reeves
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Maddox FTW. But seriously. Racism, prejudicism, discrimination, etc. Are all serious and we shouldn't treat them as jokes that pass by. Because they DO NOT just pass by.
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