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weasleysww
I would like to know everyone's opinions on this. Take note of the Rwanda and Darfur Genocides, and the lack of UN intervention. I'll elaborate on my opinion in future posts when I have more time.
Paperdreamer
The UN failed in Rwanda and Darfur. However, this failure was not due to a lack of intervention. It was simply a very incompetent and incomplete UN intervention that should have been better coordinated and better enforced.

I wrote this article on the Darfur conflict a while back.
IamShipon1988
There has been much debate about the duty of the UN. I once attended a conference at the UN relating to a similar issue. One of the main reason for the UN not intervening is because CHINA is one of the biggest exporter of goods in the world and none of the countries want to loose the business they have with them. Think of it, when you go outside to buy something what country does the label state; CHINA correct? I am not a supporter of CHINA in this issue and do not agree of their methods. If you have ever watched the series called HOUSE M.D.? If you have consider to be Dr. House and the world as his patients or co-workers. He's too good to be fired but real annoying to be liked.
aussiemcgr
Honestly though, when the hell was the UN accomplished anything? Think all the way back to the League of Nations.
IamShipon1988
Well the UN does send out a lot of peace fighters. Basically they help when there is a natural disaster. They also help fund countries that are in need.
Dave Reckoning
QUOTE(aussiemcgr @ Dec 22 2008, 04:30 AM) *
Honestly though, when the hell was the UN accomplished anything? Think all the way back to the League of Nations.


As far as mischief and wasting incredible amounts of money are concerned, the UN has accomplished plenty.

As far as performing a useful service to the cause of humanity and world peace is concerned, it has accomplished nothing (other than to set these causes back 100 years or so). The UN gave the world some serious clues as to its nature in the 1960's when it brutally slapped down an attempt by Katanga Province to secede from the oppressive communist government of the Congo. The 46 civilian doctors of Elizabethville published a book filled with photos and eyewitness accounts of the massacre, by UN troops, of men, women, and children, bombing of Red Cross hospitals, etc. Most of the world ignored their warning.

The premise for its existence is basically that if you can get the good guys and the bad guys to unite in a common cause, there will be world peace. In real life, things don't work that way and never will.

The real reason it came to be is to become a world government that will permit all political power in the world to be concentrated in the hands of a tiny clique of men who will not be answerable to anyone. What sort of men do you think will gravitate to such positions? Nice, benevolent ones with the Good of the People in mind? Not on this planet.

There are worse things than the threat of war among nations. One of them is having to live on a planetary prison where there is no chance of the tyrannical world government being overthrown because they own all the weapons.

There have been more wars since the founding of the UN in 1945, than there have ever been in any other comparable period of human history.

The best thing to do about the UN would be to abolish it.

zpcs
QUOTE(Dave Reckoning @ Jun 20 2009, 02:20 PM) *
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The best thing to do about the UN would be to abolish it.

How about if we just Secede?

zpcs
Fguy
QUOTE(Paperdreamer @ Dec 20 2008, 07:09 AM) *
The UN failed in Rwanda and Darfur. However, this failure was not due to a lack of intervention. It was simply a very incompetent and incomplete UN intervention that should have been better coordinated and better enforced.

I wrote this article on the Darfur conflict a while back.


You call what the UN did in Rwanda an intervention? If it was then it was a totally inadequate intervention. Not only was the UN's response totally inadequate in terms of numbers of peacekeepers, but they hamstrung and limited the effectiveness of the forces they did send over. And headquarters didn't listen to their own man who was in charge in Rwanda (Romeo Dallaire) when he tried to raise the alarm.

The Rwanda thing made a very deep impression on me. Yes, the UN has failed miserably. They could do so much more.
anthonypia
every single middle east initiative so far
Fguy
QUOTE(anthonypia @ Feb 6 2010, 08:37 AM) *
every single middle east initiative so far


One exception to the trend was Secretary General Dag Hammarskjold who led the UN from 1953 - 1961. He was a great negotiator who accomplished a lot, even in the Middle East. Unfortunately I guess there those who did not want him to succeed at some things, and his plane went down under mysterious circumstances in 1961. sad.gif
webmastr705
I think UN intervention in Rwanda and Durfur region is not up to mark and UN not perform their task well over there.UN just wasting their time in negotiating with wrong People and not focusing the actual issue what is happening there and what are the actual problems of those peoples.
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UN pawn in the hands of the government
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