I personally like Flash websites, because they're graphic intensive. There may be a few people who don't like them, because they aren't very straight forward. I've only done one good flash website here. I'm not trying to advertise, just seeing what everyone else thinks about Flash.

On a second note, does anyone else here use flash?

I'm a huge fan of flash, but it is misused a lot. Flash should only be used for dynamic or interactive content. Basic websites should stick to xhtml, because it is more accessible to both humans and search bots. Most flash intro pages are annoying, because people want to get to content, not a bunch of flashy stuff zooming across the screen. There are times where a pure flash site can create a very neat interactive experience, like http://www.tacobell.com/ Flash applets for specific purposes are where the technology really shines, such as games, animated movies, video players or image slideshows.

I hate and like Flash websites. For a couple of reasons...

1. I can't edit them, easily anyway and I'm no good at Flash myself, but that's just me. I haven't tried ever using it. But I plan to.

2. They do look cool, but being graphic intensive isn't always best. I prefer simple and effective over kick-ass looking but annoying to manage and hard to navigate.

3. Overall, I don't use Flash Templates because on dial-up (which I use), Flash takes forever to load. So I know how it feels, and several of my friends can only afford dial-up or just don't have access to DSL. Also, I hate going to official game sites and EVERY DAMN SITE FOR A GAME IS FLASH!!! It gets annoying after awhile.

Some game sites have a Flash and HTML version. Though that still takes forever to load which isn't worth it, and you still have to load a Flash page which contains the HTML version link lol.

Flash can be good and bad... well we don't have to forget that some people still don't have flash readers.... and can't read flashs... SO like some sites did... you need to creat the same site as HTML... and ask on first page would you like to read the flash format... or html format...

load time, depends what it is for... if its for a portfolio, well it can be cool since its NOT to big... loading time can't be huge... but if its for a HUGE site like zymic.... load time can be a kill, and in marketing loading time comes at third place after content and colors. so im guessing its NOT a good idea to use flash if you have a BIG site.

But flash DO look more profesional and looks perfect and as i know (but i can be wrong) flash works the same in ALL, can be FF... IE... Opera.... what ever... should run the same thats one of the good points.

Flash sites kills time also in DSL depending on your DSL type. I took me over 2 hours to view a movie clip(artworks) in the SC2 official site. but I like the way Flash 1. make virtual turn to life. see SC2 official site. 2. like MrTouz posted flash makes your site professional and 3. you dont have to worry if your .swf file wont work in different web Browsers, also MrTouz posted.



maray n adlaw!

can i lol with you ? LMAO and this is funny stuff

How about integrating them? Like what Yahoo does at it's front page. That's what I'm planning to do. Oh, and the only thing I hate about other flash sites: that annoying, unnecessary background music. Yuck.

they usualy have a sound button to SHUT IT OFF !!!.... damn always scares the shit out of me... when i listen to music out loud on my room, and get a technical pro sound froma random site :/

By the way, thanks to bezz, I found a good linky for an image rotator that will be on the front of my site.

http://www.bezzmedia.com/swfspot/samples/a...lur_and_fadeout

I don't think flash should be used it at all, but I guess the media players and games are fine. Still don't like them very much.

Never for just looking cool though.

What's so bad about Flash anyways? Users with internet that can't even handle a small 500 KB swf file shouldn't even be browsing the internet.

And besides, you've got to hand it to Macromedia, Flash is one of the biggest innovations of browser interaction history.

Ahh, nice to see someone finds my code useful.

Ive just realized this a while ago: Flash Websites are not only effective or good in games but also in promoting upcoming movies. hahahah!




let the Zerg swarm!

I used to mess around with flash sites, but stopped when i learned Ajax.

Currently, i only use flash to encode MUSIC in to a SWF for faster loading on a page (a la emoruffino.com)

I also still mess around it for some tools like players and RSS stuff etc.

But now its really all Ajax for me.

That's your site? Sweet, can I submit some graphics tutorials one of these days? Like, how to make shiny orbs and topshines in Flash, so they don't have to fuck around in Photoshop.

I think flash is great for websites some of the time. I only think you should make a full flash site if you are targeting users that have newer computers. (such as a website on flash tutorials ) Otherwise a good flash header is always nice.

the combinason of the music and the huge .png image makes the site load to much long :/ i had to wait around 1.30m to have your site opened :/

that with a 12 000mb connection :/ yea yea fuckin fast, but it loaded slow...

Huge fan of the flash websites. But i would really h8 them if i was running at 56k...

Such as www.clantre.org?

I messed around with flash. I think I did some elements for sites in it at one point. It is a nice animating tool, though.

Looks what I found! Here's a few incredible flash sites. (no advert, appreciate the beauty plz =P )

http://www.drinkencore.com
http://www.drinkre5.com

And something that might save myspace:

http://www.lovemyflash.com/

i have many flash website ebook. your sign maybe Lí Liên Kiệt. where are u from?

i like flash simply because it is such a powerful tool...it provides decent animation tools combined with graphic tools...flash sites are often very advanced looking...though flash is somewhat difficult to learn...the final product is well worth it

It took me only 1 month to master all the basic stuff you have to know in Flash to make a shape tween.

No, just kidding. I wasn't interested in non-fbf animation during the first months.

is there any one need flash catcher ??

If you want to grab a swf, just open your Tempory Internet Files folder and find the swf there. If you have a lot of files in the folder, clear your cache and revisit the site.

Flash sites might be candy to eye but they are not very good if your aim is to have your site accessible to as many people as possible. I have relatively fast DSL internet but still many flash sites takes ages to load. And this is the case with most other people. Unless you live in Sweden where super fast internet is standard paid by government, then you are screwed.

That's why I prefer classic websites.

EDIT:

Ok and one more reason I think flash websites are just wrong. Google or MSN etc won't index your website when it's made entirely in flash.

Sure they will
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2004/09/...ichael-marshall
http://www.askdavetaylor.com/does_google_y...sh_content.html
Although the links might not carry as much weight.

Hmm... http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/b...mp;answer=35267 ... so they index flash sites know...

Well, I remember that few years ago they weren't indexing them. Anyways, site made almost entirely in flash will be almost certainly bellow ordinary site with comparable content and traffic.

Anyways, I like flash but flash isn't meant to be used to create entire webpages. Its purpose should be only to create advertisements and dynamic content of the site. But making the entire website in flash... that's not very professional.

Not very professional? Tell that to a little company called Volkswagen. http://www.vw.com/ Flash can get misused, but when done properly, it can enable some amazing stuff.

The problem is that there aren't so many people who knows how to properly build website in flash.

That's not a problem with Flash, it's a problem with the coders. You wouldn't hire a fast food worker to perform heart surgery, would you?
Flash sites don't have to be large in size, it's all about what gets loaded when.

Hi all,
Flash is the best program ever made !!!
It works with everything :web, animation, programing, presentations, pictures, video......
and above all, It's very very very easy to use and it has a very helpful help reference.

I am using Flash for 3 years now and I love it, and by the way I didn't have any course,books, online tutorials or anything to learn it; just work on it a couple of times and read the help reference if u encounter anything... this is how I learned it and I'm very good at it now..

One issue that keeps popping up is that of search engines not being able to 'read' or index Flash sites.

This, I personally feel, is changing as people and the industry realise the potential of Flash as a content delivery platform. Search engines can read/index Flash sites, but I think it requires a little more effort. See, for instance these articles:

Article one

Article two

Article three

Since I do not have the latest Flash release, I can't actually say I have done searchengine-friendly Flash stuff, but I'm sure there'd be many who have...

Well, I personally like Flash Sites.. It just shows someone has tried hard to make a decent site. (I am not saying XHTML. PHP etc. aren't decent)
It's just good to see people putting a little more elbow grease into their work.
I personally like Flash Banners for websites, forums etc. They just appeal to me. LOL

About this search engines not able to read or index flash websites?
Never heard of it, Always worked for me.

Regards, Valency.

@ Valency -- Right on, buddy!



Check out the first paragraph of this webpage. It made me do a little bit of research to see if there really is a problem with Flash vis-a-vis search engines...

I can understand why. I don't care, I rarely use Google etc. anyway

I have no idea what the hell flash is about, but if I can assume

It makes a website more pleasant to look at, if its a website that is about something in the visual field.
I dont like on some sites, it takes to damn to load, and I leave that site right after it loads. If its a website
or page that is mainly about information or data, Alot of flash garbage is annoying. Alot of people still use dial up and
isnt a good introduction for a site that takes a minute or two to load up. I use DSL, it runs fine for me, most of the time.

I agree Midknight, It can be annoying. I've been using ADSL for good 8 years now, I used to hate it when I was on Dial-Up and visiting flash websites, Took too long to load. It also helps if you have the latest Version of Flash Player.. They should just make one version and one version only.

But as I said above, Shows someone has put some elbow grease into their work to make it stand out a bit more. :-)

Hi all.. im new on zymic, actualy student of ing. of computation on venezuela. Mi native language is spanish so please sorry la dialect. i post a page current on expo maded by some study friend and i, whith some flash effect hope you like it. visit and joint the content...

http://expocomputacion2008.zzl.org

thanks

hi howdoyouturn69!

i like your project man!.. that was a powerful intro whew!^^

A damn shame those buttons on the banner make ear-splitting sounds.

jejeje i could fix this out (sound in menu), but no for now, almost to add a forum to same page with a extra link on the menu to help the student on my class where the teacher are moderator and i a administrator , nice way to win the teacher trust... and some extra calification

thanks for the coments everybody...

PD: in process another page, when finish hope like it. a Software for the company of my dad

I need maximum exposure for my youtube video, "The Adventures of Cuddle Cubbie" and my website www.cuddlecubbie.com (the video is live and the site is being loaded this evening or tomorrow, hopefully). The url for the youtube video that I need maximum exposure for is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSYotExbWiM

here is a site you folks might wanna check out: http://www.webdesignerwall.com/trends/30-a...ic-flash-sites/

ok this is my opinion ppl

i think flash sites are sweet and if your going for an icandy sorta thing then flash is for you....
every1 is going around saying that flash is bad cose it takes to long to load.....i think that barely any1 has those crappy windoes 98s or wutever and
most ppl who like to surf the internet alot wont have a 56k internet and if they do they are morrons......

peace!

hey a good (free) flash website maker is http://sourceforge.net/projects/flaber flaber flash/php

hi everybody,
I'm making a flash site www.flash.zxq.net but it's still underconstruction,
I'm using this thing called SWFAddress http://www.asual.com/swfaddress/
"
SWFAddress is a small, but powerful library that provides deep linking for Flash and Ajax. It's a developer tool, allowing creation of unique virtual URLs that can point to a website section or an application state. SWFAddress enables a number of important capabilities which are missing in today's rich web technologies including:

* Bookmarking in a browser or social website
* Sending links via email or instant messenger
* Finding specific content with the major search engines
* Utilizing browser history and reload buttons
"

Thanxxxxxxx AloT