Hi, does anyone know or use visual basic here?

Visual Basic truly is one of the worst languages ever, and I do/did know it. I find python much better and more accepted by the nerd community

It's not that bad its just easy to learn and understand. What about Delphi?

Easy to learn badly you mean. A terrible language for new programmers, allows messy programming to run.

I started with c++ console programs, i've tryied visual basic once but i think is too hard for me, then i went to java applets, i think i can handle it

Man i have done some things in Visual Basics as the head tecknisitain in my school told me i should learn it but bloody hell its fucking hard if ya want we could try makein something 2gether ?

It's not that hard, it quite easy once you know the basics. Delphi is good aswell.

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Lol how?

You make it sound so easy when its not lol

Its is thought.



That changes the caption of a label to Hello

Now whats hard about that?

Well there is more to it that just that lol.

Shup Thats was just 2 take the piss lol

Crown, stop post whoring... if you post any more insipid comments, you'll receive a warning.

Whats Crawled Up Your ass And Died?

I cant send a comment that says "Shup Thats was just 2 take the piss lol" What wrong with the comment ?

Thats More Like it Sorry for the post But i dont understand why that post is umm i dont know whats wrong with it but as i just said Sorry

I use, Visual Basic 2008 Express Edition
Best Language
and JavaScript

I've never used it.. Doesn't look that hard really, But probably is when you get into the core of it..

Might be tempted to attempt this junk :-)

Regards, Valency.

I tried installing that but didn't work so i just use my vb6.



It's not really that hard, when your trying to do complicated stuff then it gets a lil bit hard.

I've written many variations on this thread, but here it is again:

Please, people reading this thread thinking "VB sounds cool", take it from me: it's the worst thing you can do if you ever actually want to take up programming. You'll most likely end up learning a plethora of bad coding habits because VB is not a strict enough language for beginners. Python is a much better starting point (and likely, after you've been programming for a while you'll realise why VB is widely scorned).

PHP is also not a good language to start with, so don't think I'm simply targeting VB users .

If you decide you MUST learn a programming language, at least get a good book (so, avoid anything with "for dummies" or "in 24 hours/21 days" in the title like the plague) rather than trying to learn from the Internet, because most people writing tutorials are not very good themselves, and are in no position to think they can teach, though they try anyway. A good book with good technical QA is a Godsend, but check with some experienced users (and by that I mean try to find people who've been using it for many years professionally) for which books are worth reading and which only become useful if you're run out of toilet paper. Don't think that the fact it's made it to print means it has to be a good book. I've flicked through one of the "C++ for dummies" editions, and it was honestly terrible.

I would argue that its not the worst thing you can do, it still does the same/similar jobs as other languages but its easier. You can make some pretty good things on it. But i do agree with not strict enough.

Although thats just my opinion

Easier does not mean better for people to learn, and I expect that's what most people here would be doing (bar a few). In fact, in this case, it makes VB one of the worst languages around for novices because it allows poor code to compile and run. A stricter language forces you to learn properly, and thus there is no good reason to choose VB over these "more difficult" languages except simple laziness.

You can still make GUI applications with good beginner languages like python using the Qt or GTK bindings (I lean towards the former: pyQt), so in most cases I think you'll find python/pyQt to be capable of anything VB can do, except you'll end up with a better grounding in programming in general and the application you build will be cross-platform by design (VB on the other hand is not).

I'm finding it hard to think of worse choices over here.

I pray daily that some day new programmers at my High School will start with Python instead of VB. (Or Java, for that matter)
When I look at my friends' code, I sometimes have to spray glue in my eyes so I don't have to think about how they ever got such horrible coding habits.

I'm not a big fan of Visual Basic.

i first started off learning c++ then i moved on to c# then after learning those 2 i learned visual basic and delphi together. and then to assembly (asm). with experience to all 5 programming languages i suggest learning c# because it is the basically the easiest to start of with. then to c++ and then w/e you want. i find visual basic not as good as other languages cause of its simplicity, probally why they call it visual ==>BASIC<==

i tried visual basic but i personally didnt find it good enough to do the type of project i wanted to do so moved over to C#(sharp) which i find much easier to use and did exactly what i needed it to do.

im currently programming an instant messenger program entirely in C# with your basic text chat..webcams..emoticons..file transfer and even voip which has all been made doable using C# currently have slightly over 300 people testing it out rite now so yeah its a good language and i myself only took up programming about 7 months ago so im a newb aswell lol

guess it depends what type of project your wanting to do but deffinately use something other than visual basic

You could make that in visual basic as well, you just need to know your stuff.

I've tried visual basic, but found it confusing starting off, so I didnt get much further at it. I might give it another shot one day.

I have made several applications on VB and if what you want is a quick n' dirty fix for an issue, then VB might be good at it, but besides that to actually write full applications I think that other programming languages are better. I started programming in PHP and when I moved over to other languages for the first time I realized how poor code it lets your write. PHP and VB are easy to learn but just as easy to get bad programming habits.

never even heard of it...

Quite alot of people use it still. www.vbforums.com and SwiftKit is quite a good program that was made in it.

Its true visual basic could be the wrost laguage like some of you were saying but you have some advantages... It's called API's and with VB you can do wherever you want from windows about the chat program someone is talking about I've made one with mail change too just like msn and it only cost me 2 months... and want to know something with VB and API I can do the same things you do with C except visual programing because vb and games aren't that much friends... this is only my opinion and I know that VB is far from being the best languages but it is easy to learn and fast for developing some tools to fix something that we need

bye and sorry for the english... I'm Portuguese

To add my two cents to that argument, Alex I believe its acceptable to start your programing experience with PHP. But this depends solely on where you learn from. Learning PHP from a number of texts has helped me grasp the concepts of many programing paradigms, especially object orientated objective-c (cocoa and carbon). I will also say VisualBasic is a copout, although in appears similar to other languages such as C ect 90% of applications created in VB aren't universal and rely on what library extensions the end user has, such as .net framework.

I condemn VisualBasic, but do believe PHP is a strong language to start with teaching programers the way OOP and procedural languages are structured.

And yet PHP does not require you to understand a lot of things which are fundamental to other languages. You do not have to know whether your variable is an integer or a reference to an object, since it will attempt to silently handle any mismatches (and this can lead to errors, for example trying to treat a string as an object). It's not strict, and for those reasons it's not ideal as a language to learn in. You can write good code in it, but there is always a nasty method which works, and since it works people don't need to come up with the right way.

Also, VB like C? Have you tried writing both? VB is primarly OOP, and C doesn't even have any OOP constructs (though most large C projects end up building their own OOP system - GTK+ for example); VB is heavily contextual (for example, the way it treats "="), C is not; standard C is built to be cross-platform, VB is not...

hi master.. can u tell me how to add vb in my php page and login to mig33?
server= gateway.mig33.com
port= 9119
thanks.. master..

Urm... what are you on about?

This is the first language that I learned. This is also the basis of some parts of PHP.

Visual Basic is the third-generation programming language from Microsoft. visual basic is very user friendly that's why Visual Basic is easy to learn and use.scripting languages are similar to visual basic but platform is different ,Visual Basic was derived from BASIC .

I have made project using visual basic as front end end and SQL server as back end.
I have done project on hospital management system.

YEAH!!that‘s right!

Visual Basic is a simple programming language. It is easy to learn and fast to write code with, it's sometimes used to model an application that will later be written in a more difficult but powerful language.