Mattjb5
Feb 3 2012, 10:54 PM
I know you don't like Weather websites and updating remotely at regular intervals . But I got a question. I am thinking of starting a website, but I am not in a postion in upload at regular intervals all day, every day. Therefore I am planning to only update twice a day, I am not just saying that, I do not have a desire to upload to the web all the time, I see no point in it.But I don't think you would still allow even that. It would be a shame if it was not allowed, I would have to get a host with someone else that would be more helpful. Thanks. Look forward for a response.
ssfdre38
Feb 4 2012, 04:09 AM
we dont allow any weather scripts on Zymic at all as stated on our TOS
Mattjb5
Feb 4 2012, 09:33 AM
QUOTE(ssfdre38 @ Feb 4 2012, 04:09 AM)

we dont allow any weather scripts on Zymic at all as stated on our TOS
Thats not good news. I not have come across any web host that puts a ban on weather websites. I just don't understand why and it unfair. Why is it treated as a banned usage that violates the TOS. I can understand illegal and abusive sites are banned so should they, but why a weather website. What is the reason. You got a good offer for web hosting, but I can't use it. What is wrong with providing very important local weather conditions for the benefit of local people, that is not breaking the law and hurting people, the weather affects everyone. Or is some web host reason.
And what do mean by 'Weather Scripts'. Is there a way to use a weather website with Zymic.
Thanks ( I don't mean to be hard)
ssfdre38
Feb 4 2012, 06:27 PM
the reason is cause it will create a heavy load count on our servers and it will take up the FTP user slots.
Mattjb5
Feb 5 2012, 04:06 AM
QUOTE(ssfdre38 @ Feb 5 2012, 04:27 AM)

the reason is cause it will create a heavy load count on our servers and it will take up the FTP user slots.
I see, it a shame anyway. So this means that any process to a update a web page with weather data, puts too much pressure on your system, and so that it is not allowed. So if it was static page that had no processing of data onto the web pages and no running of scripts it would be allowed. But then I would not have website. I was hoping that this would work, you offer what I need, as it is only a personal site that doesn’t justify paid hosting. Even updating only twice a day, but that not allowed. Thanks away. Have I got that right.
ssfdre38
Feb 5 2012, 07:44 AM
the best way to do it is to just get a VPS (Virtual Private Server) and you can do it
Mattjb5
Feb 5 2012, 07:53 AM
QUOTE(ssfdre38 @ Feb 5 2012, 05:44 PM)

the best way to do it is to just get a VPS (Virtual Private Server) and you can do it
OK, is that the only way. And not knowing this web stuff really well, how does that VPS work. Is it a server at my end.? Thanks for your kind help
ssfdre38
Feb 5 2012, 08:57 AM
well its a server inside a server and you would control it yourself
Mattjb5
Feb 5 2012, 09:14 AM
QUOTE(ssfdre38 @ Feb 5 2012, 06:57 PM)

well its a server inside a server and you would control it yourself
I don’t quite understand. I have a server at my end to handle the data transfer. Is that right. See the software insert the data into standard html files which are uploaded to the website. The files are uploaded using the ftp tool to set it up, then by the software every time after that using the ftp address and password etc using standard ftp. How does it thid work exactly, I don’t know. Sorry to be a pain.
ssfdre38
Feb 5 2012, 05:12 PM
you would install your own (what its called) LAMP (Localhost Apache2 MySQL PHP5) system to run it and an FTP deamon such as proFTPd or Pure-FTPd and that is how you would do it
Mattjb5
Feb 5 2012, 08:04 PM
QUOTE(ssfdre38 @ Feb 6 2012, 03:12 AM)

you would install your own (what its called) LAMP (Localhost Apache2 MySQL PHP5) system to run it and an FTP deamon such as proFTPd or Pure-FTPd and that is how you would do it
Ok I look into that, does that means I have to operate a server at my end myself all the time. Because I don't think I can commit myself to that. So would I ftp to that server or how would it work. How would have it interfaced with the zymic webspace. Sorry for the question. And is this the only way to do this. Thanks very much.
ssfdre38
Feb 5 2012, 08:08 PM
no we dont offer VPS you would have to pay for it from a VPS host
Mattjb5
Feb 6 2012, 02:56 AM
QUOTE(ssfdre38 @ Feb 6 2012, 06:08 AM)

no we dont offer VPS you would have to pay for it from a VPS host
Just wondering, if I have a VPS installed and a FTP deamon that I control but hosted by this host elsewhere. Is that right. I need to manually ftp the web pages using the software onto the zymic webspace. How does this server thing relate to the ftp. You say I need to install this system, would this be operated from my location or at the host. This seems to be a harder way to do it, is there a easier way. Would converting the html web pages to php help or would that not be useful. This is only a personal site, that will only be only updated every 10 to 16 hours. If I want a weather website with zymic what are my options? (if any). But thanks for your help.
ssfdre38
Feb 6 2012, 03:26 AM
ok your not getting what im saying, as stated on our TOS you can NOT use the script AT ALL ON ZYMIC, and its the same for most other places. NOW a VPS would be the best way for you to go to be able to use your script so then this way you follow your own TOS and not ours and its not on Zymic
Mattjb5
Feb 6 2012, 03:47 AM
QUOTE(ssfdre38 @ Feb 6 2012, 01:26 PM)

ok your not getting what im saying, as stated on our TOS you can NOT use the script AT ALL ON ZYMIC, and its the same for most other places. NOW a VPS would be the best way for you to go to be able to use your script so then this way you follow your own TOS and not ours and its not on Zymic
I don't get it because why that is I am asking, please I am trying to understand this. Now are you saying the software is a script and you don't want on your system, how does the VPS avoid this "weather script confusion" This is the only web host I have seen that bans weather ftp. Are you saying the only way is with VPS??? Or there another way. How does this work.
ssfdre38
Feb 6 2012, 05:33 AM
the only real way is with the VPS cause you control all the resources
Mattjb5
Feb 6 2012, 08:53 AM
QUOTE(ssfdre38 @ Feb 6 2012, 03:33 PM)

the only real way is with the VPS cause you control all the resources
Wait a minute, are you saying that the only way is to host it myself, that zymic can't allow this weather ftp to happen. Then in that case, I am sure I can find a host that can provide webspace for my weather website. So is it right there is no way to use Zymic as web space for a weather website. Have I got that right??????? I think I am slowly getting this.
ssfdre38
Feb 6 2012, 05:30 PM
yup you have got that right
Mattjb5
Feb 6 2012, 07:26 PM
QUOTE(ssfdre38 @ Feb 7 2012, 03:30 AM)

yup you have got that right
Well that settled but it is a shame, thanks for your time anyway.
Btw, I am 100 per cent sure I can get my weather website elsewhere without the server thing (or whatever it is....)??????. Looks I am going elsewhere. Good bye.
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