Nexus
Sep 24 2007, 07:37 AM
I absolutely despise Adobe right now. I have gotten the Dreamweaver CS3 trial and finally finished downloading. Only to find I HAVE to have at least 512 megs of RAM on my stupid crappy computer. How stupid is that? Most will RUN with lower RAM, just run slower than normal.
This is so not freaking fair. HOW THE HECK DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO GOOD WEB DESIGN WITH AN OUT OF DATE HTML EDITOR YOU &#$^!@%!!!
spiderwebfx
Sep 24 2007, 07:51 AM
Does it require you to actually have 512 MB RAM?
Or does it just say that as recommended requirement?
Nexus
Sep 24 2007, 09:12 AM
No, you HAVE to have it... Otherwise it WILL NOT install. Same goes with Photoshop and Flash CS3 I pressume.
Ruisu
Sep 24 2007, 09:54 AM
pfft who needs such programs when you have your good old friend 'NotePad'

Dreamweaver gives out dirty codes anyway, thats why I prefer to just stick with Notepad.
Nexus
Sep 24 2007, 10:56 AM
Maybe, but it sure as hell makes it a damn sight easier.
Zaphod
Sep 24 2007, 12:32 PM
RAM is cheap now days..
but hey as Ruisu said.. notepad FTW lol
Dragolux
Sep 24 2007, 12:47 PM
Then again, FlashCS3 and PhotoshopCS3 Extended do come in handy.
XyberForce
Sep 24 2007, 01:27 PM
I hate Adobe for taking over Macromedia. Macromedia was a perfectly fine company, and then all of a sudden Adobe had to step in. Well, at least I don't have to keep going back and forth between Photoshop and Flash again, well, once I get the latest suite.
Mark
Sep 24 2007, 02:30 PM
How can you not have 512 MB of RAM? It's pretty basic nowadays. You should invest the $30 it costs to buy a 512 MB stick.
Zytran
Sep 24 2007, 02:37 PM
Not much you can do but, upgrade.
I went about 6 years on a 400mhz system, I didn't want to buy a new system.
But I couldn't do anything not unless I gave in and bought one.
This isn't so bad on your part tho, Just think of gamers!
They got to upgrade to huge amounts on hardrive space, ram, processors just to keep up with game updates.
Half-Life 2 Preferred specs:
2.4 GHz Processor
512MB RAM
And these would still give lag!
Cmain
Sep 24 2007, 04:20 PM
Ruisu
Sep 24 2007, 05:47 PM
I don't know if this is a great program but NVU which is a freeware program compatible with Linux, Windows and Macintosh computers is a WYSIWYG HTML editor that’s quite similar to Frontpage and Dreamweaver etc
It can be found at
NVU.comI doubt this needs alot of Ram so it might be of use to you.
Alex
Sep 24 2007, 06:36 PM
I have to say I much prefer a simplistic editor to a WYSIWYG monster too. I use kate, but that's a part of KDE - so not ideal for most people. I have used notepad++ though, liked it. It's not about reducing features, it's about picking out the really useful ones (syntax highlighting, brace matching, etc) and throwing away the bloat.
Magnus
Sep 24 2007, 07:19 PM
Adobe hates you

Seriously though, Adobe rocks. Suck it up and buy some RAM. How are you doing coding and design on such an underpowered system?
SP_
Sep 24 2007, 08:02 PM
Dreamweaver isn't that good of an application anyway. If you are a good coder and really enjoy you, you should enjoy typing out all that code yourself. Notepad++ is nice, I suggest you give that a go.
grumpy
Sep 24 2007, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(Nexus @ Sep 24 2007, 07:37 AM)

HOW THE HECK DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO GOOD WEB DESIGN WITH AN OUT OF DATE HTML EDITOR YOU &#$^!@%!!!
er...buy some ram.
Cmain
Sep 24 2007, 08:25 PM
I'm sure previous versions of Dreamweaver would get you along just fine if you really need Dreamweaver. If you are using Dreamweaver you should only be suing the code view if you are writing HTML/CSS. The tag completer is just about the only feature that would be useful. A regular text editor such as Araneae is just as efficient in my opinion.
It sounds like it is time for an upgrade in your case. The trial on lasts 30 days and then you would have to pay for the software. A RAM stcik is much cheaper than a version of Dreamweaver.
Nexus
Sep 24 2007, 08:26 PM
Ooh yeah. Buy RAM for a crap two year old Dell laptop? I don't bloody think so. It'd be worth more to buy a new freaking laptop!
Cspace
Sep 25 2007, 06:54 PM
I bought an extra 256mb RAM stick for £13.00, $25.00? a while back, im sure your laptop RAM prices wont be that much.
bezz
Sep 26 2007, 11:27 PM
Get a new computer. If you ever plan on getting Vista, you'll need 2 gigs of ram.
Cmain
Sep 26 2007, 11:42 PM
QUOTE(bezz @ Sep 26 2007, 07:27 PM)

Get a new computer. If you ever plan on getting Vista, you'll need 2 gigs of ram.
I run Vista Ultimate with Aero perfectly fine on only 1GB of RAM. I do agree that you should at least have 512mb of RAM on any modern PC.
XyberForce
Sep 26 2007, 11:50 PM
I got an HP tablet laptop, 1400 $, 960 MB RAM, 120 Mem, NVIDIA Ge Force GFX card, it's pretty slow when I play Warcraft III, but runs Aero Home Premium okay. It almost never crashes when I use Photoshop CS2 though.
Nexus
Sep 27 2007, 12:33 AM
I plan on getting a new laptop (got nowhere to put my own Desktop, as I board with my mate AND it's easier to take a latptop to my folks in the holidays lol). I'm saving for one now, though I DON'T want bloody Vista. Vista sucks, it's OKAY but I'd much rather have XP Pro. At least with XP, I know all my programs work without failure.
Ziprock
Sep 28 2007, 03:16 AM
I wouldn't say Vista sucks, just in its early stages. I didn't think much of XP when it came out, preferring my win98 over the flashy new OS.
I don't really see the point of this thread, you can't try Dreamweaver because because your system is too outdated. Cmain made a good point. If you ever planned on buying the software, it would cost much more than a 512 stick.
If i were you, and i really wanted to try it.. im sure you could use a friend or family members computer.
Nexus
Sep 30 2007, 09:10 AM
All my files are on my computer, and I edit my site somewhat at least once daily. And the point of the thread is that programs shouldn't have a requirement needed to run on your computer. They should have a minimum and recommended specifications like games do. But still run, just lag your PC out like no tomorrow.
Also, I've seen it. It looks (as in GUI-wise) like Dreamweaver 8. And I can run that perfectly fine. So WTH?
Serenity
Sep 30 2007, 04:57 PM
QUOTE(SP_ @ Sep 24 2007, 04:02 PM)

Dreamweaver isn't that good of an application anyway. If you are a good coder and really enjoy you, you should enjoy typing out all that code yourself. Notepad++ is nice, I suggest you give that a go.
Dreamweaver is an amazing application. Of course if you don't know what you're doing it can be a pain in the ass, but you should be typing your code by hand anyway. I use DW mostly for the WYSIWYG editor and the CSS integration. It makes the whole process a lot easier. I tried Notepad++ for HTML, PHP and some C++ too, but it doesn't come close. I've never used NVU, but I've heard it's really good, so if you can't afford DW, go for that first.
Btw, if you don't already have a 1 GB stick, you might as well drop the $80 for it, it's worth it.
Nexus
Oct 1 2007, 10:52 AM
Wait... how much is a 1GB stick of RAM for a LAPTOP? One that'll fit into a shit Dell Inspiron 2200 Notebook (LOL, I hate Dell)?
And I also use Dreamweaver for it's WYSIWYG editor and CSS integration as well. They would be only real features I use. Often anyways.
Cmain
Oct 1 2007, 08:52 PM
QUOTE(Nexus @ Oct 1 2007, 06:52 AM)

Wait... how much is a 1GB stick of RAM for a LAPTOP? One that'll fit into a shit Dell Inspiron 2200 Notebook (LOL, I hate Dell)?
Inspiron 2200 Memory via NeweggNot too much.
Nexus
Oct 2 2007, 06:04 AM
That link won't work for me...
Cmain
Oct 2 2007, 07:17 PM
QUOTE(Nexus @ Oct 2 2007, 02:04 AM)

That link won't work for me...
Then just fill in your info here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductConfi...ry-Configurator
Nexus
Oct 3 2007, 08:11 AM
So that's how you do it... couldn't find a Dell Inspiron 2200 laptop manually on that site lol. I also found 1GB memory upgrades at:
http://www.upgradeable.com.au/dell/inspiron-2200.html and
http://www.edgetechcorp.com/memory/upgrade.asp?cid=30022
Cmain
Oct 3 2007, 09:31 PM
MrTouz
Oct 3 2007, 09:42 PM
QUOTE
pfft who needs such programs when you have your good old friend 'NotePad'
Dreamweaver gives out dirty codes anyway, thats why I prefer to just stick with Notepad.
i feel the same

NotePad is the best !
__________
i use to use frontpage when i did no kow how to code html but the diference between IE and FF were o huge i had to find an other technic than i learned bit a html... and than tryed dreamweaver wich basicly sucks because its the same as Frontpage but a bit more advanced:/
right now the only program ive been using to code is NotePad :/
i use Dreamweaver when i have LOTS of php lines and i get an error on line #### wich makes it easyer to find... or use dreamweaver to make a line search. its really all.... (for line search on notepad... ctrl+f)
Sek_Death
Oct 4 2007, 03:20 AM
i prefer to use nvu than dreamweaver..idk why but i just dont feel confertable with dreamweaver but for some odd reason i still have it on my computer
btw i say buy a new computer its the best way to go that what i did and i got a really nice computer with 3 gb of RAM (dont know if thats good) XD but they dealer kept mensioning that so i think its good =)
MrTouz
Oct 4 2007, 06:28 PM
QUOTE
(dont know if thats good)
well 3gigs of ram is very good, as i know Vista needs 1gig ram to run

some say if you have 2 gigs ram with Vista than you cool

and i personaly think 2 is good enaugh if you dont play video, music, game, internet all 4 at same time

(even if you do with 2 gigs ram you free)
so if you have 3gigs your cool

but it also depends on other stuff such as your mother board, graphc card, processor....
____
I personalu have 256 ram on my PC and i run a 2003 XP.... i have hard time using it, oh well this is only for a short time

in a month or 2 ill be flying with me new PC
Sek_Death
Oct 4 2007, 07:13 PM
lol than i guess im good...
btw this is what my pc says.
Windows Vista
AMD athlon 54 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
2.87 GB RAM (used to be 2.97. idk what happened)
NVIDIA GeForce6150SE nForce 430
so yeah this sounds pretty high tech nd idk what it means XD T___T
Cmain
Oct 4 2007, 08:07 PM
Trust me, Vista run fine on just 1gb of RAM and even 640mb of RAM. I can be surfing with Firefox, listening to music in iTunes, be working on a layout in Photoshop, and even working on a logo in Illustrator at the same time just fine. This is also with Aero running on Vista Ultimate.
Mark
Oct 7 2007, 12:15 AM
GVim ftw as far as editors go.
Colin
Oct 7 2007, 06:16 PM
I have Windows XP, 1GB RAM, I can usually run PhotoShop, MSN, FireFox, ThunderBird and Music going with very little lag...
EMOruffino
Oct 7 2007, 08:21 PM
QUOTE(Cmain @ Sep 26 2007, 11:42 PM)

I run Vista Ultimate with Aero perfectly fine on only 1GB of RAM. I do agree that you should at least have 512mb of RAM on any modern PC.
How? when i start up i use about 800MB of ram, and on typical usage about 1058GB of ram... how the hell do you pull that off?
Vista Home Premium with the pretty Aero...
Cmain
Oct 7 2007, 09:00 PM
QUOTE(EMOruffino @ Oct 7 2007, 04:21 PM)

How? when i start up i use about 800MB of ram, and on typical usage about 1058GB of ram... how the hell do you pull that off?
Vista Home Premium with the pretty Aero...
Not sure what is wrong with your setup, maybe onboard graphics processor?
I pulled out one of my 512 sticks and stuck a 128 in just to show Vista will run fine on it:
http://i22.tinypic.com/27wyn1l.jpg
EMOruffino
Oct 8 2007, 04:30 AM
QUOTE(Cmain @ Oct 7 2007, 09:00 PM)

Not sure what is wrong with your setup, maybe onboard graphics processor?
I pulled out one of my 512 sticks and stuck a 128 in just to show Vista will run fine on it:
http://i22.tinypic.com/27wyn1l.jpgwell its not like theres something wrong with mine, it runs smooth with my 2GB.
I have to used my onboard since i blew up my 8800 from overclocking.... so that would proably be why...
Nexus
Oct 8 2007, 09:01 AM
Overclocking components such as video cards and memory is the single most useful technique in terms of improving performance. It's also, in my opinion, one of the most stupidest and riskiest if you don't know what you're doing, and even if you don't.
For one, it generally voids the warranty for any manufacturer - because most manufacturers don't like people screwing around with their hardware, and that is fairly understandable. Secondly, you are overworking whatever hardware you're overclocking (whether it be the CPU or video card, whatever!) and you need sufficient cooling to accomodate this.
IMHO, you're safer to edit the registry then to overclock your system (even if you don't know what you're doing). Because, at worst, screwing with the registry will only stop you from booting to the main screen (and you can easily reinstall your OS to fix it, the only problems you get is if you don't make backups) while with overclocking, you either damage your hardware or your PC doesn't even run. Or properly in the least.
Cmain
Oct 8 2007, 04:46 PM
QUOTE(EMOruffino @ Oct 8 2007, 12:30 AM)

well its not like theres something wrong with mine, it runs smooth with my 2GB.
I have to used my onboard since i blew up my 8800 from overclocking.... so that would proably be why...
The onboard GPU is using your RAM as memory to power Aero. Since I have a dedicated card, all of my memory can be used toward running the system. Vista runs great on anything above 640mb of memory in my opinion.
EMOruffino
Oct 9 2007, 03:45 AM
QUOTE(Cmain @ Oct 8 2007, 04:46 PM)

The onboard GPU is using your RAM as memory to power Aero. Since I have a dedicated card, all of my memory can be used toward running the system. Vista runs great on anything above 640mb of memory in my opinion.
and thats exactly how much ram is being used for the onboard GPU.. man i need a new 8800
QUOTE(Nexus @ Oct 8 2007, 09:01 AM)

Overclocking components such as video cards and memory is the single most useful technique in terms of improving performance. It's also, in my opinion, one of the most stupidest and riskiest if you don't know what you're doing, and even if you don't.
For one, it generally voids the warranty for any manufacturer - because most manufacturers don't like people screwing around with their hardware, and that is fairly understandable. Secondly, you are overworking whatever hardware you're overclocking (whether it be the CPU or video card, whatever!) and you need sufficient cooling to accomodate this.
IMHO, you're safer to edit the registry then to overclock your system (even if you don't know what you're doing). Because, at worst, screwing with the registry will only stop you from booting to the main screen (and you can easily reinstall your OS to fix it, the only problems you get is if you don't make backups) while with overclocking, you either damage your hardware or your PC doesn't even run. Or properly in the least.
I knew exactly what i was doing, i did it on purpose. Why? I wanted to see how far i could push the card before i fried it.
Cards Fried To Date:ATI Radeon 9250
Nvidia 8800
Sek_Death
Oct 14 2007, 04:36 AM
wow lol ur cpu was on 81% the highest my ever wen was 59% lol XD
Cmain
Oct 14 2007, 04:58 PM
QUOTE(Sek_Death @ Oct 14 2007, 12:36 AM)

wow lol ur cpu was on 81% the highest my ever wen was 59% lol XD
If you are talking to me, my CPU was only at 17% in the screenshot. My memory was at 81% though.
Sickness
Oct 14 2007, 07:43 PM
Nexus why berfore downloading dreamweaver you doesn't check the minimal system requierment, because all of the software or games have minimal system requierment, and with all of them when you system is lower than, you will not be able to run them.
My pc have 4gig of ram, but my graphic card is crap, and it's why I can't run all games I want run....
I suggest you to buy a new pc with more ram, or just download dreamweaver cs2 or just cs1
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