Hello,

I'm not very well known throughout the forums, that's for sure I have only posted one time and that was for help with my IP.

I would like to make a proposition, though. For a long time now I have been wanting to make SOMETHING online, ANYTHING that would be used by many people. It would be free, easy to use and customize, and everybody would like it.. And myself, and my website would be known for it.

But I know that's hard to do by yourself, one person. I am extremely good at HTML coding, advanced with PHP and MYSQL. What I am looking for are people who would like to join in on the process of making forums from scratch. I will give those who want to help their own FTP username and password to my server where they can open, edit, upload any files needed to do what they need with them.

I have a very reliable host that I pay for, and it's going to waste right now because every time I get halfway through with it, I erase everything and start all over again because I didn't like the look of it.

This is what I'm looking for:

Dedicated People who are not going to get their own FTP username and password and erase all of the files that the others have worked so hard to do.

1 Person who is good with website design - Must be able to do original work, not use website builders who would do the design aspect of the forums.

1 or 2 people who are good with PHP and MYSQL coding who could help with the scripting aspect of the forums.

What Im trying to do is build a forum / community script that other people could use for free such as PHPbb, InvisionPower board (the forums that Zymic uses).

I don't expect it to be a quick job, and I don't mind working with people who are in school or work, as I do work myself.

I will continue to pay for the hosting service - as soon as we get a Version 1 finished, which I hope to be just a simple, basic version, we will work together to build a website for it...

All those who helped would get credited the same amount of credit as everyone else on the website we would build together.

If you're interested, go ahead and send me a message or reply to this.

I might be interested in joining this project later on as I'm currently busy with school and not to forgot some other small web projects I'm involved in. I'm a 16 year old web designer/developer. I got my half unfinished (admin panel is far from running) portfolio right here which is coded by me and uses a free template (laziness). On the projects page you will find a design concept which I produced, be aware that this is still in a very early development stage. I hope you like what you're seeing there . In case you're interested; I know HTML (who doesn't), PHP, MySQL and basic CSS, I use Photoshop CS3 to design my sites and Programmers notepad for the coding and styling aspects. Send me the details by PM and the moment I do get more time on my hands I'll contact you.

EDIT: I forgot to post the URL to my portfolio didn't I? Here we go: http://lilhosty.co.uk (this being a temporal host)

maybe...but its a risky in ways.

i'm interested. i too can do design. not alot to say, just look around.

Seriously.

Can you really just trust a random perosn over the internet to do business with.

Unless your really not talking making money... but still.

The problem with this, is even if you're not making money, you're making ideas. And ideas are worth money. Especially when the idea can be implemented and constructed by someone who has the ability and money to do so.

I think this is a great idea but I also think anyone who helps this guy should be weary. He's made 5 posts. Meaning he's not well-known. He doesn't even have a profile. Therefore, what do we have to trust?

yes... thats how my network was born.

You still have to be careful with who you trust over the internet though. I can't judge people who do though as they'd make me extremely hypocritical.

yes very true. Someone could just take other peoples work for granted. I would probably trust someone thats been here longer/posts more and is known a little more. But still, its how somethings get created.

Creating yet another forum script is a great idea? Meh. There are already plenty of groups developing forum scripts. How about making a browser based game? Werewolves vs Vampires?

i think there is already a game for that..lol

I'd have to agree with Bezz however I was thinking more of a fully web 2.0 based CMS. There are many CMS's out there however some of them are crouded or are for one specific subject. I believe that this would make the life of webmasters way easier as it releaves the headache of coding all your pages.

I agree with Bezz too. I mean seeing as how phpBB is free and you can add those modifications, kinda makes it pointless to try and make another forum software. Unless phpBB goes PAID ONLY like stupid IPB did. But even still theres tons of others. Try to create something unique. like uncled... he made profile wars. I've never seen that before.

See, I made that "mistake" with Colin but was fortunate enough that he wasn't out to get me... yet LOL. Kidding. But seriously, people should be careful with who they trust online. For example, I've run loads of forums. But never once have I ever made any other admins on it besides from my cousin (and he was co-owner of the site anyway).



I never said the idea was original. I myself would love to know how to create my own forum software though. Not for other people but for my own website as I reckon it gives more of a unique feel to your site rather than paying so much for somebody else's creation,

Thats exactly what i was thinking. Heh also, the person hasn't even responded yet.

Okay - Well, as some people have said... You shouldn't trust people who aren't well known, blah blah blah, ect.

How does one become well known on a community-based forum he rarely uses? I don't use forums very much for web design because I generally like to figure out how to do problems, ect, on my own. I do all of my coding by myself 100% - If I can't figure something out I look @ tutorials, get the general idea and then do it from scratch my own way.

I have decided that I do not want to do this, create the forums. The main reason I DID want to do it was because I was thinking of ideas for websites and I wanted to create a community-based website for writers (hence CreactiveOnline). It was going to have ways to post stories, poems, articles, ect - with ways for users to comment on them. I got all the way through the users being able to comment on them and decided that that type of website wasn't for me.

I'm going to be on these forums more often to become "well known" to people, and also to help people figure out problems, ect.

Thanks,
Darren.


Oh - And I havn't responded yet because I checked for two days and didn't see any replies - Somebody replied sometime after I checked on the second day, but before I just now noticed that I figured nobody was interested, so sorry for not replying faster. I've been busy working on a couple of projects of mine and working.

You don't become "well-known" overnight. And in most cases, you'd know or meet the people you're working with upfront. Not over the net. Some websites where the webmasters are in different countries have worked great. Such as www.explosm.com or www.zybez.net but there are a ton of cases where people get ripped. Majorly.

I understand that, I really do.

I don't expect to become well-known overnight. That's not what I was trying to insinuate(if that's how you spell it ).

My point is simple - Just because some people like to screw people over and steal their money, then so be it. But that doesn't mean you can't trust people. I have no friends who are into the same things as me, when it comes to personal hobbies. I'm the only person I know IRL who even knows simple HTML (besides my brother, but he uses it for his myspace and that's about it.. and I taught it to him).

So it's hard for me to find people who I can trust. The program that I was going to go into making was going to be non-profit of course, like phpbb, ect.

I understand where everyone was coming from, of course - Because yes, it is hard to trust people sometimes. But what will the world come to if nobody trusts people? How do we even make friends if we can't trust people?

true but friends you first meet in person. you could trust some online person then they turn out to be a thug. its difficult to trust people, but sometimes it does have to be done. have you ever done something like script something?

*nods* Of course i have - I mean yeah my website isn't much.. I'm in the process of re-doing it now...

It's under construction

I decided to hold off on the forums, and if / when I decide to start it I'll either do it alone or, if I'm more well known and trusted, I'll come back and ask for some help with it.

I'm trying to get a couple of version 1 projects up and running before I re-do my website.. I plan on having at least my website and at least 1 version 1 project up by tomorrow evening, this time.. So wish me luck on that


Oh, and I figured allowing everybody to have access to my site via FTP would have built a little bit of trust, considering there are rules and regulations with having websites with Yahoo! and they could have just as easily broke these rules

I think when I open up my website fully I'm going to open up my FTP to selected individuals who will have their own subdomain "asdf.creactiveonline.com" and extension "www.creactiveonline.com/asdf/" for whichever they'd prefer to use... for people who need image hosting ect - As I do have unlimted bandwith and storage space :S

Edit:

Also - I just had time to go and actually read through all of your posts on this. Alot of you made some good points that I was already thinking about when I decided to drop this project for now.

I wanted to make the forum script for two reasons mainly - One for my own use so I knew HOW it was done, and Two - Because I wanted to make something people would use.

Therein was the problem, number two... I thought about it deeply for a day or so.. With all of the forums software out there, it would be hard enough to create one that was just as good and/or better... And once we got that good it would be hard enough to become popular enough for alot of people to actually use it.

It wasn't original enough for me, as you guys were saying - I want to make something that there are not alot of, that will be AWESOME and everyone will just absolutely love. Which is why i'm working on a couple of new projects now.. One's about 90% done.. all the coding is done just gotta add a couple more features and some graphics..

It's something that there are alot of, and god knows there are better ones out there.. But i'm hopin to make mine the easiest and most user-friendly

ya. i mean im building a program now for someone, and i need help with an install script. not everyone can do everything.

but good luck with that

Yea, i actually just finished reading your post.. I have no clue how to do that either.. I've never used anything that I didn't make myself... Like I have tried phpbb, php nuke, and stuff but I never actually used it for anything... Didn't like it

I prefer simple.. don't understand why everything can't just be simple sometimes.

hm.. instal script? like they press it and it installs the program your making?

ya that is the one thing that is causing me problems

/me looks for uncled for a tutorial perhaps

edit: you just posted that before i clicked submit

And yes. an install script so that the program will automatically connect to the users database, set up the tables, e.t.c.

idk how to do it, but it might be a good project!

ya ive been trying to research about it but i just cant find anything...its something i would like to learn thou because thats a pretty important part in web scripts like joomla

Edit: sorry to hijack this topic...

I build my own install script a while ago. It writes the config file first which is used in all database connections and then it re-directs the user to the database install script which pulls the SQL data from a file and then this info is inserted into the database. This should properly install your script. Anyways I was wondering if somebody read my suggestion for a CMS earlier? We can inter grate a home made forum into it. It'd make the projects slightly larger but more useful.