too far inclined in favour of the criminal?
too expensive?
biased?

from what i've seen of it, the law is pretty stupid. if you plead guilty, you will always get a lighter sentence, indifferent of what you've actually done. because there isn't enough room for everybody in pen.
if you're nice to the police man, he won't interrogate you so much in your interview.
if you get caught in a salford police station, you'll have an easier case than if you get caught in altrincham.

want to know what you guys think of the system and if you think it really serves its purpose, wherever you live.

What I've noticed about police here in belgium is that: They're always late when you call them, and they're always there when you don't need them.
I'm not saying I've always been a good boy, but you just can't trust the police here. They hardly get convicted the same than regular people, for the same crime,...

Someone told me this few months ago (he was a 'bouncer'(?) at a club): They were fighting outside the club, eventually they left, but one guy came back with a gun and starting to threat people. The club called the police and explained, and they said they would come right away. 10 Minutes later the cops called back and asked: 'is he gone yet?'.

That's a great definition on how cops are here..

Lol, The Cops here in Scotland are everywhere, The new plague in my opinion. They are usually quite reliable, Usually.

I was never afraid of the man. If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.

Then America decided to make it against the law to be dark skinned.

I was living with a friend a while back who had a crazy drunken father. Every single night I tried to sleep and he would come home from work screaming and yelling about how "we didn't clean the entire house for him" (I'm working two jobs mind you from 5am - 10pm every night).. So one night he was screaming to my friend about me and how I'm a worthless little "faggot" and shit and that just got me going..

So we got into this huge argument. He pulled out his pocket knife and held it VERY close to my stomache, threatening to take my life - My friend called the police and they come about 20 minutes later.. They don't even LISTEN to me or my story (i didnt even get to tell them) they just went straight to the "adult" who "wasn't drunk" in their opinion and came outside and was like

"well he didn't do anything wrong and you shouldn't call us over petty stuff we have better things to do"

I kid you not.. That was nearly their exact words...

What if he would have stabbed me and buried me in the basement when they left? And i didn't call over "petty"stuff... I've had people punch me, choke me, threaten me and i've NEVER called the cops.. But he pulls a friggen knife and they say they "have better things to do"


That was in Baltimore, MD.. Now I'm living in Florida again and the cops here will arrest you for looking at them wrong :S

For instance -

I was outside of my work. It's FREEZING at my work, so naturall I wear a sweater inside. Well when I smoked I used to go outside not take off my sweater, and smoke a cig and go back inside.. Well...

A cop pulls up and starts asking me all these questions.. "I work here," i told him.. He goes "uh huh - and who comes here at this time of night?" it was like 09:45pm... First of all - NOBODY comes to my work except employee's we are a call center.

"Um.. nobody? We're an answering service, sir," i say.. "uh huh, let me see your ID"... Okay... I give him my ID... "Give me your business card so i know you work here" .... I'm a telephone operator.. why the hell would I have a business card?

"Um.. I don't have a business card? I can get you my BOSS's business card if you want?"
"that proves nothing"

Thankfully my relief pulled in (she comes in an hour early) and he believed her cause he'd known her cause her daughter is a police officer.

What the hell?

Also - I LIVE in the same neighborhood that my work is in (literally like 2 blocks away) and it's a high-class neighborhood (ie no poor people with guns and shooting people) so it's not like he's used to people selling drugs or breaking and entering in my plaza.

there has never been a murder case solved ever in my county.....=/ police officers alot of the time now just want to become a cop to have power...not justice...

There are no cops in my area. Though I did accidentally call 911 yesterday(actually 922 which apparently directs to 911). I apologized though.

The cops here are getting better at minding their own business. They need better training when their adrenline gets pumping and they start firing and killing innocent bystanders though. It seems alot of people who become police, havent a clue on the scandalous, malicious people and behavior their after, plus alot like the authority status.

Alot of the punishment and correction of offenses here are paying money. They need other methods that gets at the root of the problem. The drug units of police departments provoke alot of violence due to lies and manipulation to get information. Also, the people who create laws (legislative body) whateva ya wanna call it, looks at criminals as being nonexistent, not being a part of society. Well i'm talking about when people get outta jail and come back to society. The sticky label as being a criminal is bad for them to get a job, and alot tend to go back to their old ways, but its their problems and desires that got them there in the first place.

And another thing, if they ever stop you, they ask 20 questions, and sometimes I'm not in the mood for some energetic eye ballin lookin muthaphucka starin me down like they wanna get with me or think i'm up to something cuz I dont look them in their eyes. I usually tell them, Its not them I dont look in the eyes, its everyone, all I need is their word, and when I talk, i'm usually looking at something else besides them. And then sometimes, I mess with them, like I be up to something, and make them search the car, and when they check the truck, I have some crazy assshit just for them, where I can see their reaction or lead their suspicions else where.

For the police, its the older ones that are the stuck up ones, cuz they used to be excessive with people back in the day, twisting the arms and the occasion elbow drop for no reason, if they cuff ya. But anyway

Reading all the posts, vigilante justice begins to look like a decent solution to this general atmosphere of lawlessness. Where's my cape and cowl? And that utility belt? But seriously: a civilian community defence system begins to sound a lot more reliable in such times...

The law system is corrupt in my opinion.

I ussually don't reply to threads like this, only because they take time to read and respond to, but this partiuclar thread really caught my eye.

I live in a town in Ohio that is considered the 'rich' part of town. By know means is my family 'rich', but I live in a family of 9 my dad works his butt off to afford a house big enough to fit our family.

Now I can only speak for the United States because I'm 2nd generation Italian and have always lived in America. I beleive the justice system the US has and the justice system the State has are both 'flawed'. There are so many things wrong about our laws etc, but at the same time there are so many things right about them. With the way our society is, it is an immpossible task to create a 'fair' justice system, all we can do is try and try and try again. And hope that we get something right. I'm not saying that this is 'right' but it's just reality. I know that a lot of murders are getting off on lighter sentences etc., there is nothing right about that, but atleast we're getting some justice!

Here's my stance: When somthing goes wrong, by nature, human beings look for someone to blame. If a cop pulls you over for speeding you blame the cop for pulling you over. Now although he did make the deccision to pull you over he is only doing his job. If you follow what I call 'the chain of blame' it eventually leads up to the president, who then leads to the nation, which then leads to each individual. The blame is spread across the world, its the cops fault, its your neighbors fault, its your coaches fault, etc.

In order to change the way the legal system works every single one of us needs to contribute, and I'm not saying that people don't contribute, but in order for things to be 'right' everyone has to contribute and continue to.

This is an impossible task, all we can do is work and work and work to make things better.

Who knows maybe in 100 years our justice system will be perfect.

I personaly want to become a cop. Only because I want to try to really make a difference.


-Kevin


edit: remember: "Campa cavallo, che l'erba cresce."
The italian proverb:"While the horse starves, the grass grows"

Right now might suck, but we're learning and growing.