dehdesh
Jul 2 2008, 03:41 AM
I have created my own little site, I am planning on doing more with it when I get the chance, and by get the chance, I mean "When I feel like it" The forum is not up quite yet, I still need to work on it. I was hosted by free-web-hosting, but supposedly their new owner is creating problems, so I decided to get out of there before things got bad. anyways, here is the site, review, and enjoy!
My Website KTHXBAI!!!
shitsux
KTHXBAI!!!
dehdesh
Jul 2 2008, 06:24 AM
I'm not quite sure I understand your post. Are you saying that shit sucks? If so, that is completely irrelevant and off topic, and I am sure it is spam too. Please give useful feedback, or slightly more detailed feedback.
KTHXBAI!!!
Jacob
Jul 2 2008, 09:21 AM
ib: Please do not make your posts pointless and degrading. Offer some useful feedback.
Your site seems to be down at the moment so I will try again later.
Jacob.
Brandon
Jul 2 2008, 09:36 AM
Hey i have seen your site imo it looks like a 5 year old made it =/
Maybe you need to look at some sites and get some ideas ...
MrTouz
Jul 2 2008, 10:09 AM
i always come here when sites are in a downtime... this is no good, i can not give reviews and this affect my post count really badly, and i think its unfair. i want to cry :!
No seriously... ill try to give a review once your site is... i guess.... up ?
Brandon
Jul 2 2008, 11:19 AM
QUOTE(MrTouz @ Jul 2 2008, 11:09 AM)

i always come here when sites are in a downtime... this is no good, i can not give reviews and this affect my post count really badly, and i think its unfair. i want to cry :!
No seriously... ill try to give a review once your site is... i guess.... up ?
I have the same problem but if you go through www.hidemyass.com and you will see :]
Welcome to Zymic @ dehdesh
dehdesh
Jul 2 2008, 10:05 PM
I just figured simplicity would be best, since I don't want to put a lot of work into it, and make it look fairly presentable. It took me about 5-10 minutes to make it, so chances are it is going to look, well, simple. The hardest part was throwing the forum together, and all that required was clicking check boxes and hitting next, and googleing to find out you have to use Localhost instead of vndv.com. I will look around at some examples and modify as I see fit. Thanks for the reviews, I will try to make it look like a 6 year old made it next time =P
Magnus
Jul 3 2008, 05:20 AM
Atrocious.
dehdesh
Jul 3 2008, 09:04 AM
alright, after looking through the site, I notice a lot of flaws, as do you, but no one has posted them for me so I can look into them. Flaw 1. the crease in the right hand side of the page, quick fix, but it makes the site look horrible, 2. the downloads page, the fonts are off compared to each other, I was thinking of getting rid of some of those downloads anyhow, and another page has the same problem, but on a greater scale, because I only put one back to the top link on the page, so you either have to scroll all the way back to the top, or scroll all the way to the bottom, or if you have Mozilla Firefox just hit Ctrl+F and type "back" Will work on these and will be prepared for another round of reviews. Actually, I'll work on them later today when it's not 4:00 A.M. =P
Reicheru
Jul 3 2008, 09:18 AM

Sorry but that looks more like 'messy' than 'simple' and the navigation, it would like better if you used image map =/
Andrew
Jul 4 2008, 09:34 PM
An image map? Come on Reicheru...
And anyways, yes your website is "atrocious" as someone else said. And yes, nobody has given you any real feedback, but thats because in all honesty everything about your site needs to be changed.
First off, the colors you have chosen don't go well together, Gold, Silver, Cyan blue, and lime green?
pick a better color scheme.
Second, your background images. Just delete them. Off the site and your computer, and don't ever think about them again.
Your header images need work, I can understand the glossy effect you've got going on but it doesn't work. And the moderated text is very hard to read. Well all the text is hard to read with that background, did you delete it yet?
Your counter at the bottom. Find a hidden counter, or install a php script that lets you customize the look of the outputted stats. That counter looks like you got it from GeoCities.
In all honesty the whole site looks like you made it with geocities page maker.
Now all my comments, I know, are harsh. But I do not mean them to be condescending. I just want you to understand that you're on the right start, but you've got a long road ahead of you.
MrTouz
Jul 4 2008, 10:45 PM
Well i was going to say something, but after reading what Trippin said.. ill suggest you read it twice.
The colors really do not match, the background really is not doing well, and your links are really oldage.
I really feel like it was made in 1998.
The site takes time to load, and the download page is really messy as you mentioned, also the width is too big like you mentioned.
I really think the word 'simple' was not understood. Your site needs work, simple work actually, but just work. You can get as many help you need here
dehdesh
Jul 15 2008, 03:24 AM
QUOTE(Trippin7464 @ Jul 4 2008, 09:34 PM)

An image map? Come on Reicheru...
And anyways, yes your website is "atrocious" as someone else said. And yes, nobody has given you any real feedback, but thats because in all honesty everything about your site needs to be changed.
First off, the colors you have chosen don't go well together, Gold, Silver, Cyan blue, and lime green?
pick a better color scheme.
Second, your background images. Just delete them. Off the site and your computer, and don't ever think about them again.
Your header images need work, I can understand the glossy effect you've got going on but it doesn't work. And the moderated text is very hard to read. Well all the text is hard to read with that background, did you delete it yet?
Your counter at the bottom. Find a hidden counter, or install a php script that lets you customize the look of the outputted stats. That counter looks like you got it from GeoCities.
In all honesty the whole site looks like you made it with geocities page maker.
Now all my comments, I know, are harsh. But I do not mean them to be condescending. I just want you to understand that you're on the right start, but you've got a long road ahead of you.
Ouch. =P Well, yes that was helpful, will now get back to work, I know it's been a week since I have given any feedback (twas afh [away from house]), but I'm still here you didn't scare me off =P (I know you weren't trying to) I will attempt to post again, or edit my post after I have made a few changes.
I was wondering, do you mean rid myself of ANY background image, as in the site does not want and/or need a background image, and I have gotten rid of the stat counter, also, hows the header look so far?
@MrTouz
This is my 5th time reading it =P
Nugz
Jul 15 2008, 12:29 PM
It hurts my eyes....
Ok seriously though, - The navigation is too...cheesy.
- The header file is WAY too large and takes way too long to load.
- The background is kinda cool looking but just adds to the load time.
- I'm not sure if you designed it on a wide screen monitor, but my screen resolution is 1024 x 768 and I can only see half the site at a time.
- There are 3 big images in the header when you could consolidate into 1 small logo to save space.
- 38 HTML errors found here See Errors
- The download page is confusing, maybe add descriptions to the downloads to explain what they are.
- Overall lack of what it is you do on the main page.
There were a couple more things but I'm out of time for now, have to go to work...
From a first impression I rate the site 3/10
Andrew
Jul 15 2008, 06:01 PM
Okay your I think getting the idea, but you still need to change some things.
I think the chat should go on a seperate page, and put a link in your nav for it. I think on the home page should just be a little about your site or some news or just something simple that will explain WHAT your site is about. Have that chat thing on the home page is a bad idea, especially since it makes sounds.
Also yes, you need to get RID of THAT background. A background should be a simple, NON intrusive image, that background draws my attention and thats bad. A background is meant to compliment the site not TAKE it over!
And the navigation buttons are also very intrusive. They also should compliment your design, and not be so bright. They should be very readable.
Also your header image (WBK Research and Development) should not be so wide. You need to make sites legible for MOST of the web. And that means the people using 1024x768 screen resolutions. Your header image makes the page scroll to the right, and that is quite possible the MOST ANNOYING THING EVAR!!!! Might just be me though

So make that image not so wide and try to make the filesize smaller. (If your using photoshop use Save for web... in the File menu) because 528.75 KB is WAY TOO big for ANY image for a website. That should be no more than 100 MAX, i'd much prefer it to be less than 50KB but thats not Always possible.
Moon Princess
Jul 16 2008, 05:50 AM
The site seems to be messed up and I think its because of the background. You'll be alright if you add a cool background with light colours. And you can use some software to create a better Navigation Bar. Here's some softwares : Easy Button and Menu Maker, Flash Menu Factory, CoffeeCup Flash Menu Builder and you can find even more. Just search for it in Google and you'll find many of them.
dehdesh
Jul 16 2008, 06:49 AM
Aight, I killed the chat room, I have slain the background image, and replaced it with a dark blue image that is somewhat calmer, I'm still working on the buttons... any ideas for colors? (I was able to make them somewhat readable) I have set the width of the screen to 1015, hopefully center aligning the table will allow everyone a slightly okay view.
By we on the index page, I mean me, after having abrupt changes to your sleeping schedule, you seem to do things that you don't know about until you wake up tomorrow.
@ Moon Princess: Just noticed your post. I will look into some of the tools, and see if I can get an outcome that I like =) (I could always use something to play with in my spare time)
machine
Jul 16 2008, 07:31 AM
The problem, in my personal opinion, is that the site lacks that 'professional' look/feel. Why don't you look at some of the templates offered by Zymic [at the main site] and try to get a feel of what works designwise for your content? For instnce, your header image and the background are not related to your content at all...
dehdesh
Jul 17 2008, 11:41 PM
I have completed the chat page now too. Have I brought my page from epic fail to somewhat okay, or does it still require a 5 gallon drum of TLC?
Reicheru
Jul 18 2008, 01:25 PM
it still hurts my eyes, it still looks messy, and the style still looks the same. Maybe you should change the placements. Like the navigation, etc.
King Tut
Jul 29 2008, 11:24 PM
The header image has alot of Blur effect, try to sharpness it if you can, or change it.
its all dark, blue and black, and its all images.
watch some examples please... take a look over those
websites and learn
Sickness
Jul 30 2008, 12:01 AM
QUOTE(ib @ Jul 2 2008, 04:37 AM)

shitsux
KTHXBAI!!!

Yeah, he means that shit suck
and my opinion is the same, this template would be great in the 80's, but it's 2008 now, you should improve your design skill and also your coding, stop using html, the good way is xhtml.
dehdesh
Aug 7 2008, 02:13 AM
QUOTE(Sickness @ Jul 30 2008, 12:01 AM)

Yeah, he means that shit suck
and my opinion is the same, this template would be great in the 80's, but it's 2008 now, you should improve your design skill and also your coding, stop using html, the good way is xhtml.
Well, it's good to know that someone else thinks shit sucks, Perhaps farts blow? But, anyway, I will look into xhtml, and see what I can find.
k.digennaro
Aug 7 2008, 02:58 AM
Hey dehdesh,
I got to be honest I'm not a fan of your design. I see where you were trying to go but it just doesn't work on a webpage. I think your trying to over engineer this page visually, I have this same problem. My suggestion to you is to go to a site that offers free templates, look through a few not looking so much for a 'design' but a layout. Choose one with a layout you like, download it, then basically switch out the images with your own. This will make the design original, I used to do this, it taught me a lot. Just remember that although cool designs and tons of gradients etc may look great in a picture, on a webpage they are quite distracting and can take away from your webpage.
I hope I gave some useful advice,
Kevin
Magnus
Aug 7 2008, 09:22 AM
QUOTE(Sickness @ Jul 30 2008, 12:01 AM)

Yeah, he means that shit suck
and my opinion is the same, this template would be great in the 80's, but it's 2008 now, you should improve your design skill and also your coding, stop using html, the good way is xhtml.
FALSEhttp://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml
Reicheru
Aug 8 2008, 09:48 AM
QUOTE(Magnus @ Aug 7 2008, 09:22 AM)

totally agree
Andrew
Aug 8 2008, 07:45 PM
QUOTE(Reicheru @ Aug 8 2008, 05:48 AM)

totally agree
Hypocrite?
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
<title>Ayuaddicted :: a fanlisting collective dedicated to Ayumi Hamasaki</title>
sclek
Aug 12 2008, 11:39 PM
I would suggest using one of the templates at
FreeCssTemplates.org. There are over 310 templates to choose from for free.
dehdesh
Aug 21 2008, 08:28 PM
Alright, skip the xhtml, and find a better template. What if I did solid colors instead of designs? Would green and black work, or would green be too bright? I'm guessing stick with cyan, or darker blues and black.
Here are a few templates that caught my eye.
http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/pastrieshttp://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/embouteillagehttp://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/unknownI think I'm leaning twords the third one, but I think the links should be moved to the left.
MrTouz
Aug 21 2008, 11:16 PM
third one looks shit, gradients are ugly to tell you the truth.
PLEASE do not give up, you started already, so why give up ? OK your layout is ugly... no really lets not cover our eyes and say what we see for a moment.
You really want to use an image as a background ? you can use a simple color... than you need structure, start by making a box... yea simple huh ? well make a box, put some borders to it, and start from there... you will have a starting point, a place where you can put content and navigation... so they do NOT fly anywhere...
As i look your site you are a Research and Dev website.. in what.. ? i dunno... but you research and dev. so colors... than should not look MATRIX or blue.. or green... i suggest something dark (so black) mixed up with some gray... and why not a color (one that you will use on your links, and the bold text...) well a main color, a color that will not be EVERYWHERE on your site... but just at some places such as the border of your box... the links again... or anywhere... the header for example.
You should use anything that is working with PIXELS... don't forget that its 2008 and pixels are really not the tendency, something with gradients... (nice looking) something with some bold...
What i said above, can really change of cours, itsjust ideas to go with what you started, you can always go for something white and light green with some gray..

All i am trying to say is take your time, put some structures, and try to look fancy...
QUOTE
I would suggest using one of the templates at FreeCssTemplates.org. There are over 310 templates to choose from for free.
No so cool from you... USE ZYMIC FOR FREE TEMPLATES
dehdesh
Aug 22 2008, 12:07 AM
QUOTE(MrTouz @ Aug 21 2008, 11:16 PM)

third one looks shit, gradients are ugly to tell you the truth.
I don't think it is really gradient, I think it's just transparent, and the background is causing the gradient look, but I will look through the free ones at zymic right quick.
edit: or maybe it is gradient due to someone drawing the background image into part of the foreground image...
D.Juwara
Aug 23 2008, 11:44 PM
Great server, FireFox couldn't find it.
MrTouz
Aug 24 2008, 08:27 PM
QUOTE(dehdesh @ Aug 22 2008, 12:07 AM)

I don't think it is really gradient, I think it's just transparent, and the background is causing the gradient look, but I will look through the free ones at zymic right quick.
edit: or maybe it is gradient due to someone drawing the background image into part of the foreground image...
Well you get what i mean, it looks like a gradient effect. Anyways it sucks
dehdesh
Nov 7 2008, 03:08 AM
Well, I got bored of my old them, so I switched again XD. This time I used fireworks instead of Dreamweaver, and I will be moving the chatroom off of the front page soon enough =P (I hope I don't get in trouble for bumping my own old topic)
EMOruffino
Nov 10 2008, 12:54 AM
my eyes!!!! my eyes!!!!!
download a free zymic template and base it off that...
dehdesh
Nov 10 2008, 03:47 AM
I know... it's the blue, it hurts my eyes too... I just wanted to make something out of fireworks XD
Plus, those little texture like lines kinda give you a headache too...
Also, I want to make something from scratch, use what I have at my fingertips. I should be able to make something amazing, I just can't come up with an idea...
wozzym
Nov 10 2008, 05:14 AM
http://tutorialized.com will help you get started

because right now your design is...
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